Carl Frampton vs Kiko Martinez and the undercard RBR & discussion
Sat 9th Feb: 8.00pm UK, 9.00pm CET, 3.00pm EST
Lee Selby vs Martin Lindsay
Kiko Martinez vs Carl Frampton
Andy Lee vs Anthony Fitzgerald
Great assessment. Both men seem to want the fight and I'm sure their respective promotional teams can put aside differences to make it happen but the fight can be allowed to brew a bit longer. In a couple fights time I see both guys going in for vacant or interim title belts. Then the two can fight each other if no world "champion is available".
Quigg already has an interim strap
Very good fight, close one aswell i thought. I could see a case for it being 4 rounds each after 8.
Great KO from Frampton..Martinez took the fight to him like no-one has before and he will learn alot form that fight.
In Munroe and Martinez, Quigg and Frampton have passed their biggest tests to date..the build up to that fight is getting bigger and bigger :boxing:
Can't believe what I've read in this thread. I thought Frampton was pretty much in control for most of it. Far more accurate, fought very well on the back foot. His defence needs some work but he was never in trouble tonight. Alot of Kiko's work was just aimless pressure, he looked pretty sloppy to be honest.
However it just goes to show how subjective scoring a fight is. We moan about dodgy decisions, s h i t punditry etc etc, but we all read fights very differently.
Frampton was becoming more accurate in the later rounds but Kiko was making him looking silly for the first half of the fight pretty much.
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Can't believe what I've read in this thread. I thought Frampton was pretty much in control for most of it. Far more accurate, fought very well on the back foot. His defence needs some work but he was never in trouble tonight. Alot of Kiko's work was just aimless pressure, he looked pretty sloppy to be honest.
However it just goes to show how subjective scoring a fight is. We moan about dodgy decisions, s h i t punditry etc etc, but we all read fights very differently.
Martinez is well known for gassing late, I guess all that running made his legs turn to jelly when Frampton landed that right.
I doubt it was the running. That was a perfect shot. Coming forward with momentum then stopped on his tracks.
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I had Kiko up by 1 or 2.
Does anyone know if Kilo has a rematch clause? I think he's very capable of beating Frampton. He just needs to pace himself better. I think his lost some of his movement due to his workrate in the early rounds. So he got tired/lazy and started coming in straight. But not taking anything away from Frampton tho, he can hit. That probably took a toll on Kilo as well.
Good win for Frampton and props to both guys for taking this fight, good for the division.
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That is true..... Green k sent my friend
His rebuttal: Rigo was showing great footwork and angles http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/laughing-smiley-face.gif
Thanks man. Dan is one of those posters that doesn't care about being consistent at all.
I brought them up not to say media is infalible. I brought them up because you claimed it was only the biased British who scored it for Frampton. Obviously mostly British people will be watching a British fights and thus you'll mostly see British posters having opinions of this fight. So I brought up two non-British media. Acting as if anyone who didn't see it exactly you like did are idiots is rather pathetic. Jesus Christ, grow up.
I thought Frampton was ahead by quite a few :dunno:
Maybe I need to watch it again.
You didn't have such issues with Rigo's Cordoba performance, and that was faaar more defensive.
That is true..... Green k sent my friend
His rebuttal: Rigo was showing great footwork and angles http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/laughing-smiley-face.gif
Just finished watching the fight.
Surprised many here thought Frampton was losing. I had him ahead at the the time of the KO.
Frampton definitely showed a few flaws. Most notably backing up with his hands down, leaky defense at times.
Answered some questions too. Took some solid shots for Martinez and didn't blink, showed he has legit power.
At this stage of his career he looks good but has a lot to learn. Great learning fight for this stage of his career.
According to a poll 40% of boxing mags and journalists had Pacquaio ahead against Marquez in the third fight.
Elie Seckbach had Brandon Rios ahead against Richard Abril.
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I brought them up not to say media is infalible. I brought them up because you claimed it was only the biased British who scored it for Frampton. Obviously mostly British people will be watching a British fights and thus you'll mostly see British posters having opinions of this fight. So I brought up two non-British media. Acting as if anyone who didn't see it exactly you like did are idiots is rather pathetic. Jesus Christ, grow up.
Because that is who they wanted to win and most are drunken Brits. People just can't be honest, they're always incredibly bias and will virtually always have their fighter ahead or claim ''it was a close fight''
Oh great, the "everyone who disagrees with me is stupid' line of argument. That's brilliant mate, thanks for your contribution.
Okay, Frampton was well ahead due to the marathons he was running inside the ring. Happy now?
You didn't have such issues with Rigo's Cordoba performance, and that was faaar more defensive.
And why don't you look at the scorecards on the multitude of other boxing forums out there, plenty of which formed the consensus that Frampton was winning. Just because the hivemind here thought something it doesn't guarantee its authenticity.
Because that is who they wanted to win and most are drunken Brits. People just can't be honest, they're always incredibly bias and will virtually always have their fighter ahead or claim ''it was a close fight''
I'm not British and this is probably the first time I've seen Frampton. And my scorecard looked nothing like Jim Watt's scorecard.
Ryan Maquiñana (from Ring) and Scott Christ (bad left hook) also had Frampton up.
I dont think anyones scorecard looked like Jim Watts tbf
I'm not British and this is probably the first time I've seen Frampton. And my scorecard looked nothing like Jim Watt's scorecard.
He (Framps) also looked good against Molitor.... You should check it out
I'm not British and this is probably the first time I've seen Frampton. And my scorecard looked nothing like Jim Watt's scorecard.
Ryan Maquiñana (from Ring) and Scott Christ (bad left hook) also had Frampton up.
According to a poll 40% of boxing mags and journalists had Pacquaio ahead against Marquez in the third fight.
Elie Seckbach had Brandon Rios ahead against Richard Abril.
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No I know what I seen the first time round. Look at the scorecards in this thread, the only guys who had it close or had Frampton ahead are British, isn't that a coincidence? I can only presume you're also British or don't know how to score a fight too.
I like Frampton but lets not bullsh1t.
And why don't you look at the scorecards on the multitude of other boxing forums out there, plenty of which formed the consensus that Frampton was winning. Just because the hivemind here thought something it doesn't guarantee its authenticity.