Please people, stop saying Pacquiao has declined!!!

ok, now show some evidence? Pac has declined

Pacquiao's workrate in the ring has declined massively. He simply does not move as much or as quickly as he once did. This is not unusual, this is to be expected. He's 34 and has been fighting professionally since he was 15. Physical decline is inevitable.

This is what happens when you get off drugs.... It's a no brainer It took him 3 years to clean up, hence now accepting full testing. Since accepting it he's looked horrible, check the time lines. And quit the "The fight should have happend 3/4 years ago", as true as that is THEN MANNY SHOULD HAVE JUST TAKEN THE DAMN TEST! Manny is as much declined as Roy was when he got off drugs If one were to play your game one would instantly realize that its flawed logic on your part. If Manny were taking PEDs, as you say, why would he now be off of it if he hasn't ever done random testing? All he would have to do is cycle it off once it got closer to fight time. The reason is that nothing really changed since 2009 .... as I said, he never tested differently before, during or after 2009. Also, you guys had consistently said that Manny was on PEDs when he beat guys like Oscar, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and so on but now that he lost, he is off of it? Too funny!

Pacquiao struggles againts counter punchers. ..he struggles againts jmm...

Pacquiao struggles againts counter punchers.

Everyone knows that Pacquiao declined...............................random testing. Nice..........

this contribution was lacking. it would have been useful if you could've taken the time to qualify your statement. I didnt need to. The overall crapness and the stench of floydiot bumsniffery did that for me.

Pac has declined. This is a crap thread.

pacquiao has gotten too complacent causing him to under estimate opponents

Can you state a source confirming Pac is/was on drugs? Thanks in advance. Poochiao is taking peds because Crackweather Sr says so. He's also taking peds because Poochiao has large head and for a midget to dismantle all these huge fighters is suspicious. Floyd tested positive three times according to a reputable writer. Floyd cult members are a different breed of people. They'd rather believe Crackweather Jr than a reputable writer. They're deeply in love with Floyd. It is what it is. :boxing:

Pac has been declined - Floyd Mayweather

Everyone knows that Pacquiao declined...............................random testing. This is well known. I actually agree, I think it was more of a Freddie Roach thing... All of a sudden his fighters started dropping like flies...Khan, Pac, Chavez and it just happens that all of them were accused of Steroids. That's an interesting point. Pac fell down a decline. I'll say Marquez laid the decline on him. Karma....... That was Marquez's left shoe's name: Karma Chameleon.

For **** sake! This again? It's 2013.

besides the knockdown and the knockout, pac looked pretty good in the marquez fight. almost looked like 2009 pacquiao when marquez couldn't move as well. movement confuses pacquiao. put him in with a punching bag and watch all these dudes say "he's back!"

gone are the days say it with me pak yow

It's a combination of things. Yes, he has been in wars .... but also this ... Before, when he was climbing up the ranks prior to Oscar, he would concentrate on boxing. Now, he has several distractions and his focus has not been solely on boxing. It was bound to happen sooner or later.

Pacquiao has declined in the same way Mayweather has, their legs and movement aren't what they were but that's what happens when fighters (and those in other sports) move through their 30s. Pretty much agree with this for now. In the future there will be plenty of stories about what his life has been like during these past years and things will fall into place ...but, for now, it's obvious his legs aren't there and that was arguably his #1 asset for many years.

What's the reason for Floyd's decline then ? Getting off drugs ?

Can you state a source confirming Pac is/was on drugs? Thanks in advance.

I sort of agree with the original poster. Never in the history of boxing has a fighter gone from 130 to 147 lbs and knocked people silly. Every since it was alleged that he was on PEDS his knockouts has ceased. He couldn't even hurt Bradley who was a blown up welterweight at best. I would argue that he hasn't been in any " wars" but that would not be true. He fought Morales and Marquez multiple times each. I do believe he was on PEDS based on his pure strength and lack of that now. Then again I believe Margarito has been cheating since the Martinez, Cintron and Williams fights...what do I know....? Bradley was getting f'd up and then got on his bike for the second half of the fight. Marquez was getting f'd up too. Margarito got his career ruined, Cotto got f'd up, Mosley got dropped and got on his bike, Clottey refused to come out of his shell. Pacquiao has declined in the same way Mayweather has, their legs and movement aren't what they were but that's what happens when fighters (and those in other sports) move through their 30s.