Is Jayson Velez being thrown to the lions?

Both those guys you mentioned are a case of too soon, and maybe for Velez. Its a double edge sword, move a guy to fast and he loses and you have bums on a forum saying they're exposed. You allow a guy to take his time and season up a bit and you have bums on a forum saying that they're hypejobs. A troll has to troll

He's being thrown to Ponce de Lion literally. Now that was funny! :lol1::lol1:

I was just watching the Soto Karass vs Aydin fight and noticed the popup for upcoming fights. Jayson Velez vs Ponce De Leon.... The trend lately has been Dulorme (16 fights) loses to Abregu(35 fights) Del Valle (16 fights) loses to Vic (43 fights) Now Velez (20 fights) fights De Leon (47 fights) is it too early or is it time for Velez to shine? Some will argue that Del Valle and Dulorme were "exposed"....But without flag toting or hate I honestly believe those two prospects were more talented than the guys they lost to....it was just too early. Will Velez-De Leon be more of the same? I believe Ponce will box Velez ears off, but the kid does have pop so he might catch Ponce, you never know. More then likely the fight will go to the cards and of course the crooked judges will give it to the Rican. Just go ask Burgos. :nutkick:

If they're gonna be good, then they're gonna be good and no C class fighter with 30, 40, 50 fights would beat them. There's been much worse that have been overcome. These guys fought A-/B+ fighters early in their careers, and they have turned out fine: A 17 fight, young, green Floyd fighting the 130 Lineal champion who had 39 fights, only one loss, Genaro Hernandez. A 20-0 Andre Ward, beating the Super 6 Tourney favorite Mikkel Kessler who had 43 fights and 1 loss. De La Hoya at 16-0, 17-0, 18-0, 19-0 fought Molina, Ruelas, Hernandez, and Leija. All top 10 fighters at LW at the time, and Oscar was only 22/23 years old. A 18-fight Nonito Donaire fighting an undefeated, near 30-fight favorite Vic Darchinyan. Hernandez, Kessler, Darcchinyan, Molina, Ruelas, Hernandez, Leija>PDL, Abregu, even the Vic that Donaire fought>the Vic that Del Valle fought. Like I said, if you're going to be good, then you're going to be good. Stop with the stupid "being fed to lion's" excuse. If they're losing to a 40 year old Vic and Carlos Abregu, then they're not going to be that good regardless of how much time you give them.

Only chance velez has is to catch de leon like lopez did. When he is cold in the early stages he seems to have the power and speed to pull it off. But ponce has tighten up his defence and should be to much for velez. And dulurme was exposed the argentine dude sucks maked de leon look like mayweather in there

I can't wait for this fight its going to end by KO.

Velez vs Ponce That is good test for the Rican this will show him if he is ready to step up or not. If he beats Ponce then what will you say???? I never benched 360 lbs I thought I could not do it cuz others said I needed to take it by steps........gave it a shot and did it with more ease than I thought. Grow some balls and sky is the limit. Velez do your thing Ponce is not what he is hyped to be ask Juanma he knows :boxing:

That is true. I guess the reason many people were saying "exposed" was to rub it in the nationalistic fanatics' faces since they viewed Dulorme as the 2nd coming of Jesus. People can say they don't let stuff go to their heads but if you are constantly being told how good you are and how no one can touch you, there comes a point where you start to believe it. When the reality hits that you have been carefully guided throughout your career to reach a certain point and the guy across the ring from you has had to sweat, bleed, and fight for every single thing he has accomplished in his career, you are like a deer caught in headlights....no where to run, no where to hide

It just means he has bigger guts/balls than the majority of prospect boxers. Most people are scared to take risks while they're being groomed. That's one thing I have to give to some PR prospects lately, they're willing to go to the lions den unlike other prospects from other places...including some from Mexico. AMEN!!! Exactly what I was thinking!!

He's being thrown to Ponce de Lion literally.

That is true. I guess the reason many people were saying "exposed" was to rub it in the nationalistic fanatics' faces since they viewed Dulorme as the 2nd coming of Jesus. So you still refuse to believe in the Messiah Dulorme. So he lost, its not like Jesus didnt lose to Poncious Pilate and the people of Israel is it? I have no doubt he outboxes the likes of Rios, Mathysse, Garcia and knocks out Amir Khan at 140.

.....Dulorme and Del Valle had a good chance of winning too. Those dudes had a lot of hype behind them, Velez has had to earn his respect one fight at a time, he has a different mindset. He can't count on the benefit of a favorable decision when the going gets tough like the others, he has to rely on 100% skill. In addition, PDL has lost to every undefeated prospect he has faced since 2008 as well.

I think Velez can outbox and beat PDL.............and will.

To me yes. IMO he doesnt even deserve the shot yet. Beating a nobody in Salvador Sanchez shouldnt give him a shot at De Leon, Hell even boxrec has him ranked outside the Top 30 fighters of the division. Before even getting a shot at De Leon he should have fought a Top 10-15 fighter. Things are going to go real bad for him unless he has superstar level talent, which he hasnt btw.

bump......

good fight for both, should be excitn

Yeah I was very surprised when this fight was announced. Velez needs to get some seasoning against some B level fighters + former champs before taking on a current champ. What's Elio Rojas doing these days? That might have been a better fight.

No........i actually think he can win .....Dulorme and Del Valle had a good chance of winning too.

Very good post. I dont know to tell u the truth. He look good against sal sanchez but tjat dude is trash. So I guess we'll find out march 2nd.

Tough to say. I like to see fighters in big trouble and come back from it in a fight. Velez is taking a massive step up. He's facing a tough mexican top 126 pound fighter in his first "real fight" I hear that and respect it as a fan I want these kind of fights. But from a business standpoint its a gamble that may cost him. Look at guys like Chavez Jr. Financially its almost better to go the B1tch route....and even the flag toters give him respect.