Yet if Floyd doesnt fight Martinez he is scared and a duck??how does that work??Martinez does not have to face top middleweights because of risk/reward..yet if Floyd does not fight the top mw he is a ducking coward??the posters on here are hilarious,i mean hilarious....
Floyd likes pass himself off as the best fighter in the world who does things no one else does, then when the big announcement comes of who he is gonna fight..........drum roll please..........none other than the one and only........ Guerro......big deal, what an anti climax.
Floyd fights less than his peers, so hes really got to do better than that, more is expected of floyd im afraid, Floyd and his fans might not like that, but thats the trade off for being a lazy so and so.
Fight Sergio at 160, but come in at about 156 against Sergio. The time has come to stop treating Floyd as some kind of charity case, no more talk of Sergio coming down to 154 please.
It is absolutely no better than the Barker fight.
Only difference is, is Murray is in the Top 10. For what reason, I have no idea.
I agree, it a fight over a fighter who hasnt fought anybody and is basically #3 in his own country, lets not even go into where he should realistically be ranked in world rankings
Ive met both and yes they are the same.
this is just another excuse for you to give floyd yet another pass
I want to see two of the top 3 P4P fighters get it on
and it can happen twice!
first Floyd vs Martinez at 154 (a weight they can both make and it would be a super competitive fight)
then later I want to see Martinez vs Ward at 168 to end his career win or lose
i dunno why the hell ppl think martinez can make 154. he cant, not healthy anyways. normally, ppl would pan this type of fight, but i guess because its floyfd and they think martinez can beat him, it becomes ok. but i guarantee u that if martinez ever fights at 154 again, he will be drained. thats pretty much a certainty. u dont stay away from a weight class for numerous years and the go back and make the weight comfortably, the whole idea is absurd just as absurd as the ppl who believed oscar could make 147 against pac. smh
middleweight is a crap division. who cares about it anymore? just like 154, we have a situation where all the top guys are dancing around fighting each other, simply because no1 is good enough or feels good enough to dominate the whole division. both those divisions are crap imo.
no one has a problem with floyd fighting sergio the problem some people have is the fact that people make it seem as if floyd has to fight sergio you talk about floyd fighting guerrero but guerrero is a ww and so is floyd sergio martinez is a mw.sergio is no bigger than oscar when?oscar didn't even look good in his 2 fights at mw so no oscar and sergio are not the same
Ive met both and yes they are the same.
this is just another excuse for you to give floyd yet another pass
I want to see two of the top 3 P4P fighters get it on
and it can happen twice!
first Floyd vs Martinez at 154 (a weight they can both make and it would be a super competitive fight)
then later I want to see Martinez vs Ward at 168 to end his career win or lose
what i don't understand about you mayweather fans is why do you guys not care about floyd striving for greatness? yall act so threaten by sergio martinez. yall scoff at the idea of floyd fighting him. why? why are yall content with robert gurerrero? sergio is no bigger than de la hoya and floyd beat him. no fight would do more for mayweather's legacy than sergio martinez.
no one has a problem with floyd fighting sergio the problem some people have is the fact that people make it seem as if floyd has to fight sergio you talk about floyd fighting guerrero but guerrero is a ww and so is floyd sergio martinez is a mw.sergio is no bigger than oscar when?oscar didn't even look good in his 2 fights at mw so no oscar and sergio are not the same
Lol. Trout is better than Canelo? I hate Canelo but I had to LOL again.
What fight on Canelo's resume is better than a win over Cotto at 154? I'll wait
The Murray fight isn't much better but it is above the Barker fight....
Barker was still Euro level heading into that fight
It is absolutely no better than the Barker fight.
Only difference is, is Murray is in the Top 10. For what reason, I have no idea.
martinez hasnt ducked anyone at MW so far, its the other "champions" who are either unwilling to fight him or unwilling to earn a titleshot. geale is the only one who deserves a shot that seems to want it, if martinez doesnt fight him soon that will be a duck imo and i dont even like geale.
you are right about floyd not fighting martinez though, that fight makes no sense and you cant duck someone who isnt in your weightclass. anyone who thinks floyd should fight martinez dont know anything about boxing. anyone who is saying hes ducking martinez, is scared etc is plain stupid.
Good that kills all hat non sense of Martinez fighting Ward and Froch because neither one is in his weight class
so fighters should stay in the same weight class their whole careers too
why did floyd go up to fight Cotto at 154 now back down to fight Guerrero then he is going to go back up to fight Canelo at 154? makes no sense right?
what i don't understand about you mayweather fans is why do you guys not care about floyd striving for greatness? yall act so threaten by sergio martinez. yall scoff at the idea of floyd fighting him. why? why are yall content with robert gurerrero? sergio is no bigger than de la hoya and floyd beat him. no fight would do more for mayweather's legacy than sergio martinez.
'm surprised Barker isn't ranked in many top 10 lists, he beats at least 7 or 8 of the guys on Ring's list.
You shouldn't be surprised, he doesn't have a top 20 divisional win. Neither does Murray
Yet if Floyd doesnt fight Martinez he is scared and a duck??how does that work??Martinez does not have to face top middleweights because of risk/reward..yet if Floyd does not fight the top mw he is a ducking coward??the posters on here are hilarious,i mean hilarious....
Who did he avoid exactly? Pirog? Please, that dude rode out of town just as fast as his hype train brought him in. 3G? He hasn't done much in his pro career so far and he hasn't fought any top rated MW's himself if I recall correctly. He has fought or will have fought 3 of the top 10 MW boxers in his last 3 fights. I'm surprised Barker isn't ranked in many top 10 lists, he beats at least 7 or 8 of the guys on Ring's list.
People are just complaining because Guerrero moved up 2 divisions to get to WW and even though he is winning fights, people still view him as a smaller fighter.
Yet if Floyd doesnt fight Martinez he is scared and a duck??how does that work??Martinez does not have to face top middleweights because of risk/reward..yet if Floyd does not fight the top mw he is a ducking coward??the posters on here are hilarious,i mean hilarious....
martinez hasnt ducked anyone at MW so far, its the other "champions" who are either unwilling to fight him or unwilling to earn a titleshot. geale is the only one who deserves a shot that seems to want it, if martinez doesnt fight him soon that will be a duck imo and i dont even like geale.
you are right about floyd not fighting martinez though, that fight makes no sense and you cant duck someone who isnt in your weightclass. anyone who thinks floyd should fight martinez dont know anything about boxing. anyone who is saying hes ducking martinez, is scared etc is plain stupid.
He hasn't avoided anyone, but he hasn't been fighting very good fights either. He's solely focused on money, which every other popular fighter in the sport gets heavily criticized for, yet people don't care that Martinez is fighting Darren Barker and Martin Murray and looking at a Chavez Jr. rematch.
Why not fight Pirog? He was more deserving than Barker. Why not fight Golovkin now? He's more deserving than Murray.
seriously?off of what?a fight or 2? what happends to golovkin if they lose to sergio?the lil buzz they have is gone and they become overrated euro bums
Then he will most likely rematch Sturm after that. He's busy for about a year. Barker fight was trash. Only reason Sergio isnt sh1tted on more for taking that fight is because Barker had decent success and did way better then expected. This Murray fight is just as bad
The Murray fight isn't much better but it is above the Barker fight....
Barker was still Euro level heading into that fight
Yet if Floyd doesnt fight Martinez he is scared and a duck??how does that work??Martinez does not have to face top middleweights because of risk/reward..yet if Floyd does not fight the top mw he is a ducking coward??the posters on here are hilarious,i mean hilarious....
who the hell is the top middleweights?damn all people do is cry on here
And Geale just proved he was the #2 with his win over Sturm and then signed for a big match Down Under with Mundine. I don't think Martinez has ducked anyone, but I agree on the Barker fight, unless he shows us something more down the line.
Then he will most likely rematch Sturm after that. He's busy for about a year. Barker fight was trash. Only reason Sergio isnt sh1tted on more for taking that fight is because Barker had decent success and did way better then expected. This Murray fight is just as bad
I'd say Molina probably has the best resume at 154. Considering he should have the W over Lara, was wildely outpointing Kirkland until the crazy ending as has a decent win over Cintron too.
Fair point on Angulo. He looked terrible in his last fight but as sad as it is to say, it would be a step up for Canelo.
I agree, Molina always slips my mind when talking about fighters at 154.
Floyd is a champ at 147 and154*
Martinez is a champ at 160
Martinez isnt fighting the top guys at 160
Floyd is fighting the top guys in both 147 and 154
Martinez isnt even fighting GGG lol whos in his weightclass
Martinez is calling out a 154 pounder a weight he hasnt fought in 5 yrs
Martinez is scared of his own division so he wants to come down
Martinez fears GGG
I agree with you on this one Martinez is a great figther not taking anything away from him and he has always look impresive. However he wanted to fight and called out FLoyd, Pacquiao at some point even mentioned cotto, all of them figthers avareging 147lbs tops.
But he totally disregarded Pirog and GGG, both legit 160lbs contenders not paper or popularity based contenders ie CHavez jr, Williams had never fought anybody else at 160lbs, how in earth was williams #1 contender at 160.. Martinez has a good chance at winning against those two but the punishment he will get on the process will accumulate and quickly and that he is scared.
Explain howhe has guts to call Chavez Jr. paper champ, but yet he dont even considers or mentions the top 2 middleweight contenders..??:boxing:
Yet if Floyd doesnt fight Martinez he is scared and a duck??how does that work??Martinez does not have to face top middleweights because of risk/reward..yet if Floyd does not fight the top mw he is a ducking coward??the posters on here are hilarious,i mean hilarious....
Apparently you missed the 180+ replies thread on martinez ducking golovkin.