How many boxers in history have really done it and done it successfully? I know it's subjective to the true pain or unsteadiness at the moment but who do you think of?
I think of Tarver mostly
Foreman was hitting Ali, but lets not act like Ali wasn't hitting Foreman while he was on those ropes either. I mean the scorecards had Ali up. A lot of Foreman's punches weren't even landing clean on Ali. Sure a lot were, but Ali was hitting Foreman too.
Once Ali saw Foreman was clearly gassed in the 8th, he jumped off those ropes and KO'd Foreman. I'm not saying he went into the fight with that plan, but he definitely adjusted mid fight.
I agree with you man also who is that scary looking ghost eye assed negro in that pic?
Ali was hurt in the Foreman fight. Look at the body shots he was taking. :lol1:
And yeah, Angelo Dundee actually wanted the ropes tightened before the fight because he thought they were so loose it was dangerous. Proving that the rope-a-dope wasn't their plan at all.
Archie Moore could bring an opponent in anytime he wanted to. He had that knack of giving his opponent a false sense of sercurity!!! Moore was one of the smartest men in boxing, ever!! Ray.
Well, this is not really the scenario that TS was describing but Quillin does this thing where he acts like he's not looking at you, like he looks towards the crowd (away from the opponent) but keeps you in his peripheral and once he sees you coming towards him he pops you with an uppercut. He did it vs Wright and vs Njikam as well if I remember correctly, never really noticed it before those 2 fights tho. I believe there was someone else who used to do that before and I can't really remember now.
Foreman was hitting Ali, but lets not act like Ali wasn't hitting Foreman while he was on those ropes either. I mean the scorecards had Ali up. A lot of Foreman's punches weren't even landing clean on Ali. Sure a lot were, but Ali was hitting Foreman too.
Once Ali saw Foreman was clearly gassed in the 8th, he jumped off those ropes and KO'd Foreman. I'm not saying he went into the fight with that plan, but he definitely adjusted mid fight.
This^^^. That's why I consider this fight a good candidate for the playing possum analogy. Ali looked visibly hurt, tired, defeated, and once Foreman gassed, Ali CAME ALIVE and put him down. To me, it's a perfect example.
He laid on the ropes because he couldnt do anything else. His plan wasnt to get his ass kicked and then KO foreman when he gassed. This is one of the biggest myths in boxing.
Foreman was hitting Ali, but lets not act like Ali wasn't hitting Foreman while he was on those ropes either. I mean the scorecards had Ali up. A lot of Foreman's punches weren't even landing clean on Ali. Sure a lot were, but Ali was hitting Foreman too.
Once Ali saw Foreman was clearly gassed in the 8th, he jumped off those ropes and KO'd Foreman. I'm not saying he went into the fight with that plan, but he definitely adjusted mid fight.
Ali would just lay on the ropes, let Foreman swing, while popping Foreman with punches in between Foreman's own punches at times. Foreman punched himself out, and Ali capitalized. One of the best knockouts in history and one of the biggest upsets.
What 4Corners said.
He laid on the ropes because he couldnt do anything else. His plan wasnt to get his ass kicked and then KO foreman when he gassed. This is one of the biggest myths in boxing.
Ali was playing Possum? He was hurting real bad and had no idea what to do and lucked out when Foreman completely gassed. That was not part of his game plan
Ali would just lay on the ropes, let Foreman swing, while popping Foreman with punches in between Foreman's own punches at times. Foreman punched himself out, and Ali capitalized. One of the best knockouts in history and one of the biggest upsets.
What 4Corners said.
Ali would just lay on the ropes, let Foreman swing, while popping Foreman with punches in between Foreman's own punches at times. Foreman punched himself out, and Ali capitalized. One of the best knockouts in history and one of the biggest upsets.
Ali vs. Foreman.
Ali was playing Possum? He was hurting real bad and had no idea what to do and lucked out when Foreman completely gassed. That was not part of his game plan
When you say playing possum do you mean someone who pretends to be hurt and than attacks? or someone who gets hurt and pretends like he isn't but is really hurt?
I know Mexicans are the best at this, when they get hurt they rarely show it, Juan Manuel Marquez when his face was gushing and than last second knockout of Pacquiao, that was a good example of baiting a guy using the playing possum technique, JMM knew Pacman will attack anytime he sees you scared or hurt, he pretended to be really hurt and than Bam hit Manny as he came in wild.