Question for all who truly believe Marquez was not using PED's

ohhhh going against the grain! go you! lmao.....i saw the fight a few times and could not give bradley more than 4 rounds (saw it with hbo and some russian commentary). he didn't win the fight...and it just so happens that the majority of the sports and boxing community feels the exact same way...bradley gets an empty W and a paper belt... Here's how close it was: There were more 119-109 on the press row cards than 115-113 + draw + Bradley win combined. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley

ohhhh going against the grain! go you! lmao.....i saw the fight a few times and could not give bradley more than 4 rounds (saw it with hbo and some russian commentary). he didn't win the fight...and it just so happens that the majority of the sports and boxing community feels the exact same way...bradley gets an empty W and a paper belt... Right, right.

I don't need other people's support or approval to validate my thoughts. The joy of having your own brain, you know? But keep harping what "everyone" thinks :lol1: ohhhh going against the grain! go you! lmao.....i saw the fight a few times and could not give bradley more than 4 rounds (saw it with hbo and some russian commentary). he didn't win the fight...and it just so happens that the majority of the sports and boxing community feels the exact same way...bradley gets an empty W and a paper belt...

ha........................i'm sure it makes bradley feel better to know that there is a small group of people who thought he won. I don't need other people's support or approval to validate my thoughts. The joy of having your own brain, you know? But keep harping what "everyone" thinks :lol1:

bradley won. Nothing will change this. ha........................i'm sure it makes bradley feel better to know that there is a small group of people who thought he won.

no not really..was responding to your post: "In other words...we did this sh*t to shut up the idiotic Pac stains but in reality, what's done is done." what i got from that is you translated what the wbo had done (reviewed the bradley fight and declared pac the winner) as a way of shutting up the "pac stains" calling foul..or am i reading this wrong. please clarify if i'm mistaken..... pac got robbed against bradley...nothing will change this. Bradley won. Nothing will change this.

i agree everyone is suspect....it's just that marquez is more suspect than the rest. donaire is doing all year round random testing in order to quell any suspicion surrounding him...what is marquez doing? he's supposed to be doing all year round testing anyway as a condition for working with heredia...heredia has said this. I know Donaire is doing his thing, but Lance did it for years, it doesn't make Donaire look any less guilty, especially since he's got "the Messiah" in his corner.

Based on your last two posts, I suggest you stop thinking period. Actually, you do a pretty good job of that already. no not really..was responding to your post: "In other words...we did this sh*t to shut up the idiotic Pac stains but in reality, what's done is done." what i got from that is you translated what the wbo had done (reviewed the bradley fight and declared pac the winner) as a way of shutting up the "pac stains" calling foul..or am i reading this wrong. please clarify if i'm mistaken..... pac got robbed against bradley...nothing will change this.

i don't think you even know what you're talking about sometimes.... Based on your last two posts, I suggest you stop thinking period. Actually, you do a pretty good job of that already.

Robbed of what, testing? Do you even know what I'm talking about? :lol1: i don't think you even know what you're talking about sometimes....

pac got robbed....i know you don't feel the same..you and like two other people. Robbed of what, testing? Do you even know what I'm talking about? :lol1:

they're professional athletes....... THEY ALL TAKE SOMETHING! that is fact, and who gives a flying flaming hoot! competition money, fame, stardom, the will and wanting to win, will always drive people to push the limits, will always have people willing to cheat.... who cares, all your processed food is loaded with crap, your meds are full of junk, your supplements are made in the same places as steroids, the water you drink has a bunch of drugs still in it from the treatment plant, who cares if people are doing stuff to make their bodies preform better..... we demand so much form these guys, they put their bodies through hell, as you get older your body stop producing certain things and they need to supplement it..... they want to improve the gloves, the mouth pieces, the training techniques, dieting, etc, but we can't improve the fighter... HOW ABOUT THIS YOU DOLTS, INSTEAD OF CARING ABOUT PED'S IN BOXING, WHY AREN'T WE TRYING TO REGULATE THE BOXING SCORING!!! WHY AREN'T WE TRYING TO REGULATE THE JUDGES!!!! THEY ARE WHATS WRONG WITH BOXING, NOT SOMEONE USING PED'S! THEY ARE THE ONES WHO RUIN FIGHTS. ANY BOXER ON PED'S IS DELIVERING ON THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT! THEY PREFORM AND USUALLY WELL!!! But boxing judges under perform ALL THE TIME! why no outrage there, why no REFORM being touted for that!?!?!? f v c k all the bullmess, I don't care about PED's, makes no difference if the judging is all screwed up..... and being on PED'S doesn't make you a better fighter..... and doesn't make you a knockout puncher if you weren't one already! if that was the case then Fernando Vargas would've destroyed DLH when they fought......

Not to mention esteemed boxing writer and reigning "hero of the tards" Thomas Hauser. so the **** what...majority of people saw pac win....nothing will ever change this.

pac got robbed....i know you don't feel the same..you and like two other people.Not to mention esteemed boxing writer and reigning "hero of the tards" Thomas Hauser.

I find it funny every one is suspicous of Marquez for gaining a pound from his last fight with Pac while Manny has been consuming over 10k calories a day for the last 6 years or so and not gaining an oz of fat and is also the one against testing.:pat:

Most of these other athletes have been getting busted out years after their retirement. The Pacquiao train has already been losing steam. Once the money flow dries up and people start writing "tell all" books, I don't think it bodes well for Pacquiao. you wont have to wait that long. As soon as Manny decides not to re-up with TR, Ole Bob will be on with Dan Rafael giving a tell all interview. Dan: Bob, tell us what you saw. Bob: Well, Dan, I was in shock when I saw the pills. I had no idea. But angel said they were b12 pills and I foolishly believed them. But deep down, I knew. I'm so ashamed of myself.

Shhhhhhit, people are going to look back and wonder WTF was with Pac and refusing to test so many damn times. He will be highlighted for making extra testing such a huge deal by refusing and by then, people will make a pretty good assessment as to why. Especially when people realize and admit that the current system is beatable and that fighters refusing any kind of other testing is highly suspicious. The “let the commission do their jobs” will be about as laughable of an excuse as Bill Clinton gave when saying he didn’t have sexual relations with Miss Lewinski.Most of these other athletes have been getting busted out years after their retirement. The Pacquiao train has already been losing steam. Once the money flow dries up and people start writing "tell all" books, I don't think it bodes well for Pacquiao.

Dude, just let it go, everyone is suspect right now INCLUDING Donaire and he's one of my favorite fighters. i agree everyone is suspect....it's just that marquez is more suspect than the rest. donaire is doing all year round random testing in order to quell any suspicion surrounding him...what is marquez doing? he's supposed to be doing all year round testing anyway as a condition for working with heredia...heredia has said this.

On a semi-related note, that "5 judge panel declare Manny Pacmen Fighter of Decade winner over Tim Bradley" crap is gone from the boxrec records finally...Manny may still be sleeping, but the sport moves on. In another 5 years people will hardly remember it as a robbery. Shhhhhhit, people are going to look back and wonder WTF was with Pac and refusing to test so many damn times. He will be highlighted for making extra testing such a huge deal by refusing and by then, people will make a pretty good assessment as to why. Especially when people realize and admit that the current system is beatable and that fighters refusing any kind of other testing is highly suspicious. The “let the commission do their jobs” will be about as laughable of an excuse as Bill Clinton gave when saying he didn’t have sexual relations with Miss Lewinski and that people should trust him.

In other words...we did this sh*t to shut up the idiotic Pac stains but in reality, what's done is done. pac got robbed....i know you don't feel the same..you and like two other people.