wladimir doesn't have any great wins. he's in an awful era. that said, he's put together a string of opponents that will udboubtedly get him in to the hall of fame.
he'll also crack a lot of top 20 HW lists. probably most of them, actually, after this is all over.
the best fighter he beat was chris byrd.
David Haye.
Go back a couple of years to those threads "Which fights do you want to see", Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye dominated lists alongside Mayweather vs Pacquiao and Gamboa vs Lopez. David Haye, going in to the fight, was seen as Wladimir Klitschko's best challenger ever. The fight itself was actually more competitive than people make it seem, but still a clear victory for Wlad.
Somehow similar to Lennox he didn't have that one defining (ali-Frazier, Holyfiled-Bowe) fight.
Closest to that I would put first Peter fight. Not because Peter is the best opponent he beat but as in that fight Wlad had to beat many ghosts and to overcome many things.
Peter was a scary tough guy by the time they fought.
Apart from that he beat some very good opponents but without real drama, he just dominated them. You need to have a little bit of drama in defining fights.
Sam Peter ... Byrd was a middleweight ... underrated and very skilled but he was not a true heavyweight.
I'm not a Klit fan but the Sam Peter victory was his best win and was a very good win. i give him props for that.
we're talking natural size, not a small few pounds differentiating them against a common opponent. Byrd has weighed in under 210 for HW fights, made 175 near the end of his career.
Byrd is the better boxer, better fighter. prime Byrd would school Haye.
Byrd had to exercise constantly to get over 200, he was a very small heavy, just about 6 feet, if that. He was always at a great size disadvantage, and if he hadn't been such an evasive, competitive and skilled boxer, he'd had got nowhere He was champion for quite a while,nearly 4 years, had some astonishing wins, and a very good chin, even against heavy hitters.
He took that fight against Vitaly Klitschko who was 27-0 all by KO...... he got lucky.
I think he didn't care who his opponent was because he was so very sincerely religious. I liked him as a boxer, but his spouting all the religious stuff at every opportunity was very irritating
Then why couldnt he win more rounds than Haye in two fckin fights? Theres no guessing required here, we have video evidence Haye is faster and hurt Wlad more than Byrd could dream. Stop being an idiot.
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We really don't know about Haye winning any rounds. I didn't think he won even one, and one judge made it 12-0, another had it 11-1 and the third had it 10-2, all for Klitschko. Ibragimov did about twice as well.....whcih isn't saying much.
I was expecting Haye to be DQ'd for dropping to his knees every time there was a clinch .I believe that the ref let it go because there was such a huge, expectant crowd. He may have been expecting Klitschko to land one good right hand and finish it, something he was in the habit of doing sooner or later.
Idk how anyone could bring up Peter as his signature win, in Peter's very next fight he got schooled by James Toney lol.
Peter was a remarkably unintelligent guy, and Klitschko destroyed his confidence in himself. He went downhill from then on.The slide could easily be seen in his succeeding fights. Klitschko nearly knocked him down in one of the last rounds, and his blueprint helped Toney to almost win.
Which fight, if you had to choose just one, would you consider his signature win?
I believe it was his first fight with Sam Peter. He had been brutally KO'd twice in a short period, and everybody, including his brother Vitali, wanted him to quit. It was ony he who had faith enough inhiself. I distinctly recall that he eagerly grabbed that Peter fight, he actually looked for it. He said that since Peter was a KO expert he wanted the fight to prove to everybody that he, Klitschko, had a good chin, instead of what all his critics were saying. He said it on TV and in print.
And he proved his point, as he took quite a few solid wallops without blinking an eye. The 3 KD's he suffered were phony, as the analysts rightly pointed out. The first was a vicious rabbit-punch which Peter had been repeatedly doing,(by then he should have been DQ'd) the second was when Peter missed a left uppercut and grabbed him by the shoulder pushing him down, and the third was either a very slight graze, or a close miss. Klitschko was going very quickly backward because of Peter's last despairing rush, and he stumbled back into the ropes just as the punch missed, and bounced to the canvas. He was up by the count of 2 and continued on giving Peter a boxing lesson.
The Ref, Randy Neumann was hopeless, and Klitschko won every round in which there was not a KD against him. Really showed his class.
And since then, he has been unbeatable.
we're talking natural size, not a small few pounds differentiating them against a common opponent. Byrd has weighed in under 210 for HW fights, made 175 near the end of his career.
Byrd is the better boxer, better fighter. prime Byrd would school Haye.
Then why couldnt he win more rounds than Haye in two fckin fights? Theres no guessing required here, we have video evidence Haye is faster and hurt Wlad more than Byrd could dream. Stop being an idiot.
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Haye barely landed a shot of worth on Wlad himself. i've heard tell of Haye being a small heavyweight, but Byrd is even smaller (won his Olympic medal at 165, started pro at LHW and was last seen as a cruiser) and competed most of his career against naturally bigger men (not true of Haye). Byrd is a much more skilled boxer than Haye and has a better HW resume. Haye is just pure speed and a punch. Byrd is the better fighter.
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Haye is actually the 2nd smallest guy Wlad ever faced at 210 lbs. Byrd was 213 lbs.
Byrd had skills, but that doesnt make him the better fighter. Norton was more skilled than Foreman, and we saw what happened there.
I never thought very highly of Byrd, he is a gatekeeper at best in the 90's. But that and the first Peter win are Wlad's signature performances so far. Haye is the best fighter he has beaten for me, but overall underwhelming resume. Hopefully he can get the opportunity to put that right before his time is up.
Byrd is a great win, probably his signature win for me although the Haye fight is more memorable because of the ridiculous build up and such despite it being a let down, could also be considered a 'signature' for that reason ?, Byrd is still the better win though.
I just peeked at his record and I'd say him avenging a few defeats was admirable. His win over Byrd is a good one also, being a quick southpaw Byrd could be difficult.
There aren't any "great fighters" on his record so I have no idea how people think he's a great fighter. He has losses against marginal guys that couldn't be in the top fifty!! Amazing!! It makes no difference if any of them were in their prime or not they weren't top tear fighters anyway! Ray.
Ruslan Chagaev is the fight where he transformed from the talented heavyweight who was too tentative to the super dominant champion we see today. He's been money since then so I'll go with that performance.