Gabriel Rasado vs Canelo Alverez

Would have been a much better fight than Lopez, but challenging yourself is reserved for a select few it seems nowadays.

So what's the difference between unproven & hype job exactly?? unproven means you've yet to be tested in the ring. "hypejobs" are given unnecessary or unfounded praise and treatment.

Huge difference. Hype is floating along getting all these props for doing nothing. Unproven is more like a young fella waiting on his step up usually with little fanfare. I'm presuming you agree ginger is the bolded & sized correct??

ginger is a bum. That's why I call him bumhype. Holla when he's lined up to fight someone worth a damn. I'll take all your points on dat suckers bet. Sure he's a Bum and your'e and ATG, GTFO! So you want to bet all your points on Rosado vs GGG? :bottle::bryce:

So what's the difference between unproven & hype job exactly?? Trout was unproven/untested before he fought Cotto, but he was receiving very little hype. People weren't picking him to win because of the fact that he was unproven. On the other hand, Canelo is an unproven fighter with a lot of hype behind him, hence the term "hypejob" being an appropriate label for him. Some fans would pick Canelo against all the other LMWs, regardless of his previous competition.

i changed he's never fought at to he's not proven at because that's what i really meant to say. regardless, i do agree with you that he fights old and smaller fighters, there's no denying that. i just think he's more unproven than a hypejob. time will tell i guess... So what's the difference between unproven & hype job exactly??

this is 2013...that was 2009...Pac supporters should know better..smh true , i should be impressed how he dismantled that guy with like 19 losess, whats his name..

All those fighters you're using as examples have beaten good fighters from the weight class they campaign in. Bumhype hasn't beaten anyone worth typing about from his. Until he proves he can beat them, he'll be just what he is a protected hypejob that fights welterweights & lower & not even the best of them either. i changed he's never fought at to he's not proven at because that's what i really meant to say. regardless, i do agree with you that he fights old and smaller fighters, there's no denying that. i just think he's more unproven than a hypejob. time will tell i guess...

he should look impressive/dominant, he's a solid 154 lber going up against a solid 140 lber. is this a serious question? so because a fighter hasn't established himself in said division, it's ridiculous to think he can beat fighters in that division? :lol1: broner can't beat khan, rios, or garcia at 140 because he's never fought at 140? ward can't beat hopkins, cloud, or cleverly at 175 because he's never fought at 175? that's honestly what you're saying, albeit alvarez campaigns in the division you're saying he hasn't proven anything in. it's not about giving any fighter the benefit of the doubt, it's about looking at his performances and seeing for yourself if this fighter has the goods or not. i've always said alvarez has shown some skills, and that he has the potential to be at the top of the 154 lb division. we won't know until he proves it against legit opposition though. i'm not claiming alvarez to be the next atg, i never have and i never will. All those fighters you're using as examples have beaten good fighters from the weight class they campaign in. Bumhype hasn't beaten anyone worth typing about from his. Until he proves he can beat them, he'll be just what he is a protected hypejob that fights welterweights & lower & not even the best of them either.

Rosado only has like 10 amateur fights then got thrown in there with the best right away. No protection. He's young and improving. I think it would be a good fight he has a real chance of winning. His upbringing in the sport was the total opposite of Alvarez. Rosado only knows challenging fights, it would be a whole new animal to Alvarez. to be fair to alvarez, be had few amateur fights himself, and he turned pro in his mid teens.

How would Rosado look against Lopez??? he should look impressive/dominant, he's a solid 154 lber going up against a solid 140 lber. is this a serious question? It's more stupid to assume that a fighter that's done nothing in any division is better than the fighters that do things in any said division. Anyhow, now the name calling has started therefore there's nothing more to discuss between us. My bad for not giving ginger the benefit of the doubt like you do. My bad for giving the fighter that has beaten real actual 154lbers, the benefit over a fighter that hasn't. so because a fighter hasn't established himself in said division, it's ridiculous to think he can beat fighters in that division? :lol1: broner can't beat khan, rios, or garcia at 140 because he's not proven at 140? ward can't beat hopkins, cloud, or cleverly at 175 because he's not proven 175? that's honestly what you're saying, albeit alvarez campaigns in the division you're saying he hasn't proven anything in. it's not about giving any fighter the benefit of the doubt, it's about looking at his performances and seeing for yourself if this fighter has the goods or not. i've always said alvarez has shown some skills, and that he has the potential to be at the top of the 154 lb division. we won't know until he proves it against legit opposition though. i'm not claiming alvarez to be the next atg, i never have and i never will.

Rosado is a Bum and GGG will once again expose that come Jan 19th, and for Bushbaby it's clear as Daylight that your'e a HATER, there's nothing to be explained if your'e still a HATER at the end of the day! ginger is a bum. That's why I call him bumhype. Holla when he's lined up to fight someone worth a damn. I'll take all your points on dat suckers bet.

Rosado is a Bum and GGG will once again expose that come Jan 19th, and for Bushbaby it's clear as Daylight that your'e a HATER, there's nothing to be explained if your'e still a HATER at the end of the day!

he'd lose to Cintron idk about Mosely or Lopez Cintron was so finished that Mosley or Lopez would've probably beaten him. I think Rosado would've gotten inside on Cintron and whupped his ass.

a boxer can have the illusion of ''improving'' after losing when they fight lesser fighters.......that's the case with rosado We'll only know once he steps up again. Many think he will be cannon fodder for GGG, but what does it mean if Rosado beats him? Does it mean that GGG is over-hyped or that Rosado is underrated? or both?? Regardless of what happens, I still think he has the attributes to be a problem at 154.

a boxer can have the illusion of ''improving'' after losing when they fight lesser fighters.......that's the case with rosado How would Rosado fare against Mosley Cintron and Lopez in your opinion???

how can you tell if he has improved? he hasn't really fought anyone to properly gauge that unless you count journeyman welterweight soto karass How to tell if a boxer has improved his craft? Watch him fight, it is that simple. He might not be fighting the top names in his division, but he's been put in there with guys of all sizes and styles. It is clear by his performances that he's taking boxing more serious than he used to. The fact that he's lost so many times should speak to his level of dedication cuz it hasn't stopped him yet.

Who is rasado? fanboying a fighter whose name you don't even know how to properly spell? that's a new one, even for most of these repugnant people.

he's shown enough in his recent fights to prove he's a solid fighter. exactly who has rosado destroyed to make you think he's some kind of beast alvarez can't touch? please explain that to me. rosado is a decent fighter. stop acting like he's at the top of the division. there's nothing to school if the person is too stupid to learn. you got crystal clear hate for alvarez, trying to discuss something about him with you would be like talking to a wall. gingerboy hasn't fought a legit 154 lber therefore he's complete shit and would get exposed as soon as he fights a guy his size. it's not hard to look at a fight and see if a fighter has skills or not. under matched opponents or not, a fighter can display a certain set of skills that shows he's no bum. imo alvarez has done that. obviously he's still not proven cause he has yet to face top opposition, but he's certainly not a bum like you make him out to be. It's more stupid to assume that a fighter that's done nothing in any division is better than the fighters that do things in any said division. Anyhow, now the name calling has started therefore there's nothing more to discuss between us. My bad for not giving ginger the benefit of the doubt like you do. My bad for giving the fighter that has beaten real actual 154lbers, the benefit over a fighter that hasn't.

he's shown enough in his recent fights to prove he's a solid fighter. exactly who has rosado destroyed to make you think he's some kind of beast alvarez can't touch? please explain that to me. rosado is a decent fighter. stop acting like he's at the top of the division. there's nothing to school if the person is too stupid to learn. you got crystal clear hate for alvarez, trying to discuss something about him with you would be like talking to a wall. gingerboy hasn't fought a legit 154 lber therefore he's complete shit and would get exposed as soon as he fights a guy his size. it's not hard to look at a fight and see if a fighter has skills or not. under matched opponents or not, a fighter can display a certain set of skills that shows he's no bum. imo alvarez has done that. obviously he's still not proven cause he has yet to face top opposition, but he's certainly not a bum like you make him out to be. How would Rosado look against Lopez???