As a technical discussion, say Broner v Burns happens this year in Las Vegas, can fans of both fighters break down for me why they think their guy will or won't win?
I'm a brit, and a big Ricky Burns fan, but I hate to say I see Broner breaking him down and winning on the cards or stopping Ricky late. The Demarco performance was impressive, Demarco is a top LW and Broner just took him apart
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Will do pal
Burns has a hard time penetrating Broner's patented "dollar general grade" Mayweather defense in the first 2 rounds but he stays active enough to have Broner looking pedestrian.
He begins to land the jab consistently in the third and looks impressive as he smacks Boner's head around with each connect.
Boner continues to try and walk Burns down but can't close the distance without eating jabs. In the 6th round, Boner gives into his frustrations and fouls Burns by throwing him on to the canvas but receives no warning from the ref.
Boner continues to foul Burns in the later rounds with sucker punches and low blows until the ref finally deducts a point.
A scandal emerges in the 10th as Boner's corner asserts illegal activity from the Burns camp and after a halt in the action, the fight is ruled a DQ win for Boner due to the fact that Burns had too many assistants in his corner.
Hi mathed, great post mate thanks for this. I'm not so sure about the ending ha! but I liked the technical breakdown, I too think Broner will be frustrated by Ricky's jab and ability to fight off the backfoot so well. When has Broner faced someone who's comfortable on the backfoot like Ricky?
Okay serious answer...
He will just win Y'kno cuz he is A.B all day, every day ya'll. But yeah man a techicool breakdown wood be like A.B 2k13 wins cuz he just stands still and lets guys hit his shoulder until they gas n den hits him with right hooks to de body b4 goin upstares n finishin em good n propa! init bludclaart! can a have a r-r-rewind?
n dat gavin rees is like totally a top p4p assassin who as bin killin de british seen man but he got sh1t for our A.B y'dig?
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Burns has a hard time penetrating Broner's patented "dollar general grade" Mayweather defense in the first 2 rounds but he stays active enough to have Broner looking pedestrian.
He begins to land the jab consistently in the third and looks impressive as he smacks Boner's head around with each connect.
Boner continues to try and walk Burns down but can't close the distance without eating jabs. In the 6th round, Boner gives into his frustrations and fouls Burns by throwing him on to the canvas but receives no warning from the ref.
Boner continues to foul Burns in the later rounds with sucker punches and low blows until the ref finally deducts a point.
A scandal emerges in the 10th as Boner's corner asserts illegal activity from the Burns camp and after a halt in the action, the fight is ruled a DQ win for Boner due to the fact that Burns had too many assistants in his corner.
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watched burns fights on youtube and my god Broner would beat the ever living **** out of him. And i'm not even a broner fan but burns is really nothing special. As annoying as broner you can't deny that it will take a special fighter to beat him.
I agree. I watched a couple of Burns' most recent fights and he looks like an average good fighter that shouldn't even be a champion. If he beats Vasquez, I'll give him major props.
Looking at this subjectively, I still believe it's almost a 50/50 fight. Broner has a solid shoulder roll defense but it's not his best asset. Defensively he isn't even world class, he still gets caught, I'd give his defense a C+. It's nowhere near as good as Floyd. Broner's biggest advantage is his handspeed combined with power. His same time countering can be very fast at times and with his feet planted, he hits the other guy hard. Connecting often + connecting with power = damage to your opponent.
Burns isn't as good as Broner defensively but has improved over the years. His footwork is better than Broner's slow, plodding movements. Burns defense is probably a C-. What Burns has developed over the years and was seen in his performances against the likes of Martinez and Mitchell is his ability to take a good shot and respond with counter combos of 2-3 punches. Burns also has one hell of an engine and he'll be with Broner every step of the way.
If I really had to pick a winner, gun to head, I'd give a slight edge to the physically stronger Broner.
Wow, you're really underestimating Broner. I guess you'll be surprised to see him hardly get hit in that fight if it ever happens. Broner's defense is at least a B+. If he has a chin to go with that defense, he's going to be nearly impossible to beat.
watched burns fights on youtube and my god Broner would beat the ever living **** out of him. And i'm not even a broner fan but burns is really nothing special. As annoying as broner you can't deny that it will take a special fighter to beat him.
Burns has a hard time penetrating Broner's patented "dollar general grade" Mayweather defense in the first 2 rounds but he stays active enough to have Broner looking pedestrian.
He begins to land the jab consistently in the third and looks impressive as he smacks Boner's head around with each connect.
Boner continues to try and walk Burns down but can't close the distance without eating jabs. In the 6th round, Boner gives into his frustrations and fouls Burns by throwing him on to the canvas but receives no warning from the ref.
Boner continues to foul Burns in the later rounds with sucker punches and low blows until the ref finally deducts a point.
A scandal emerges in the 10th as Boner's corner asserts illegal activity from the Burns camp and after a halt in the action, the fight is ruled a DQ win for Boner due to the fact that Burns had too many assistants in his corner.
I wanna see this fight because Burns will test Broner. Speaking of testing, Burns-Vasquez should be interesting as well. Anyway, Broner holds a lot of the physical advantages but I don't see him just walking Burns down like he did DeMarco. He might actually eat some shots and be forced to move a little more than he likes. Burns is solid but unspectacular. He's not a big puncher but he will mix it up and that may help him here. I don't see him getting discouraged as quickly as Broner's recent opposition has. Burns is also seasoned and has shown good determination. That said, I like Broner in this one. But I suspect it will be competitive and, if Broner turns out to be the real deal, this is the sort of fight he needs to get him there. Color me unimpressed thus far.
Anyways, Burns is a solid fundamentally sound boxer. He has fights with the high guard, sets everything up with his jab and has very deceptive power. I don't think his KO ratio does him justice. To me he looks very strong at lightweight.
Broner fights out of the shell defense but that's where the comparisons with Floyd end. He doesn't have the ring IQ that Floyd has and he's not what I would call a defensive fighter. He's a very big, strong and powerful lightweight, very solid body puncher and has decent handspeed. His goal is to ware you down, walk you down and get rid of you.
The difference in this fight will be Broner's athleticism, speed and power. Burns is solid enough to hang tough in the early rounds but Broner's early body work will pay off in the later rounds and he will either cruise to a UD or get rid of Burns late in the fight.
Okay serious answer...
He will just win Y'kno cuz he is A.B all day, every day ya'll. But yeah man a techicool breakdown wood be like A.B 2k13 wins cuz he just stands still and lets guys hit his shoulder until they gas n den hits him with right hooks to de body b4 goin upstares n finishin em good n propa! init bludclaart! can a have a r-r-rewind?
n dat gavin rees is like totally a top p4p assassin who as bin killin de british seen man but he got sh1t for our A.B y'dig?
What the hell are you trying to say?
Looking at this subjectively, I still believe it's almost a 50/50 fight. Broner has a solid shoulder roll defense but it's not his best asset. Defensively he isn't even world class, he still gets caught, I'd give his defense a C+. It's nowhere near as good as Floyd. Broner's biggest advantage is his handspeed combined with power. His same time countering can be very fast at times and with his feet planted, he hits the other guy hard. Connecting often + connecting with power = damage to your opponent.
Burns isn't as good as Broner defensively but has improved over the years. His footwork is better than Broner's slow, plodding movements. Burns defense is probably a C-. What Burns has developed over the years and was seen in his performances against the likes of Martinez and Mitchell is his ability to take a good shot and respond with counter combos of 2-3 punches. Burns also has one hell of an engine and he'll be with Broner every step of the way.
If I really had to pick a winner, gun to head, I'd give a slight edge to the physically stronger Broner.
Great post pal, I think Ricky is easily better than anyone Broner has faced, and obviously vice versa. At the moment, I make it 55-45 in Broner's favour
I think people are underestimating Ricky Burns. Most have barely seen him fight and that's probably the reason why.
I think Burns is going to be competitive with Broner. I don't see him winning, but I see him giving him problems.
He's big, strong, has a job solid jab and fundamentals and has a solid defense to. Along with a good chin.
I think Burn will actually give him problems boxing from the outside. I'd like to see how Broner handles it.
Broner has the speed and power advantage, he's better in most area's. He's slicker, more skilled. And I think he would win on points, but in a closer fight than people are expecting.
This is exactly how I see it, excellent post mate
I think people are underestimating Ricky Burns. Most have barely seen him fight and that's probably the reason why.
I think Burns is going to be competitive with Broner. I don't see him winning, but I see him giving him problems.
He's big, strong, has a job solid jab and fundamentals and has a solid defense to. Along with a good chin.
I think Burn will actually give him problems boxing from the outside. I'd like to see how Broner handles it.
Broner has the speed and power advantage, he's better in most area's. He's slicker, more skilled. And I think he would win on points, but in a closer fight than people are expecting.
key world being considered but not by all if you look at the guys Demarco beat they where trash there are many boxing experts who have both April and Titare as the guys to beat at 135lb and Burns wont last more then 9 rounds sorry if you think he is one of the best but he is trash just like Demarco.they are the weakest champs at 135 lb. Broner is going after the guys that are trash first before he steps up to the big dogs
Not at all, Demarco was easily one of the top LW's before Broner destroyed him. Burns is a very good fighter, he will make it tough for Broner, he'll do better than Demarco did, but I agree Broner will beat him clearly
Whether you rate him or not, Burns is a world champion, he's not a 'bum'.
Demarco isn't a great fighter, but he was considered in the top 3 LW's in the world , how is that not a top LW?
key world being considered but not by all if you look at the guys Demarco beat they where trash there are many boxing experts who have both April and Titare as the guys to beat at 135lb and Burns wont last more then 9 rounds sorry if you think he is one of the best but he is trash just like Demarco.they are the weakest champs at 135 lb. Broner is going after the guys that are trash first before he steps up to the big dogs