You're right about this. But those are the few exceptions, one of which Broner could be, I'll admit. Just saying he doesn't have that automatic advantage that Mayweather has, especially at the lower weights.
Broner said he sees himself going to WW or even JMW? That would be awesome, more power to him if he does that. Still he looks way too small to be a junior middle weight, even welter looks like a bit of stretch.
From his ESPN chat in November:
victor (north jersey)
what weight do you think you top out at?
Adrien Broner (1:04 PM)
Welterweight.
(Sorry I can't find the 2nd quote ATM that says he could even see himself going to '54)
He definitely has the body for welterweight
Broner:
Height- 5' 7" Reach: 71inches
Compare to some other big names around 147:
Pacquiao:
Height- 5' 6 1/2" reach- 67inches
Floyd Mayweather:
Height- 5' 8" Reach: 72inches
Cotto:
Height-5' 7" Reach: 67inches
(All from BoxRec)
Last: Broner has been rehydrating to the upper 140's his last two fights for training to hit the weight limits in the '30s. 140 will be no problem, and soon after 147 will be easy for him.
The thing about Mayweather, the guy was a damned tall lighweight, and even tall for a WW. He has it all, the speed, skills, and reach advantage. Broner is missing that one piece for total domination.
Yep, so was Mike Tyson. Same could be said for Pacquiao as well.
It'd be cool if the Ghost came down to 135 to fight Broner. No doubt, the GB comp at 135 for Broner is not good enough, although that is not his fault.
I imagine Broner will eventually move to 140, but he's a little undersized for that weight division, in terms of height and reach.
The thing about Mayweather, the guy was a damned tall lighweight, and even tall for a WW. He has it all, the speed, skills, and reach advantage. Broner is missing that one piece for total domination.
Broner is not to small for 140. Broner himself has stated he sees himself maxing out at '47 or even '54. Please take a look at pictures of Broner, when he is standing next to welterweights he appears just as big.
Try not to be so bitter about the Klitschkos' success. :lol1:
Not hard to. One of them I like, and the other's success is as impressive as any other paper champ :lol1:
I just hope they pay him well, although they likely won't.
Broner is an Al Haymon/Golden Boy/HBO house fighter so he will likely receive over $1 million.
Try not to sound so bitter :lol1:
Exactly. He could be fighting someone 2 weight classes below him at 135.....like another person mentioned a couple times in this thread.
I mean let's look at the Top 10 at 135:
Broner- Himself
Vazquez- http://ring tv. craveonline.com/blog/176415-vazquez-craves-shot-at-broner
He turned down the offer to fight Broner last November, and it's hard to envision a Zanfer fighter, who works with Top Rank, fighting a top Golden Boy fighter.
DeMarco- Already beat him
Burns- Still not keen on fighting Broner, hopefully this happens in May
Abril- Fighting Bogere
Bogere- Fighting Abril
That leaves Gavin Rees, Reymundo Beltran, John Murray, and Kevin Mitchell. I mean none of those are going to be big fights or tough fights for Broner really. Mitchell was just KO'd by Burns, I'm not sure Murray has fought since getting stopped by Rios, Beltran beat Lundy but I remember hearing HBO turned that fight down for October 6th, when Broner was suppose to fight in that date. I mean Gavin Rees is no world beater or tough fight for Broner, but it's a stay busy fight against a Top 10 opponent.
I've never seen anyone get so mad about a stay busy fight before. What would people here have said about Floyd fighting Juuko or Gerena as stay busy fights, or Pernell fighting Gavlan/Marquez at 135 tune ups in between his better fights, or Shane fighting Leija as a stay busy fight, the list could go on and on.
We have people on here saying Broner, age 23 and coming off beating the #1 fighter at his weight at the time, saying he's making such a terrible choice in Rees as a stay busy fight. And then defending Sergio Martinez when he fought Darren f**king Barer and now Martin Murray. I mean people need to at least keep it 100.
I'm not really mad with Broner, he didn't do anything wrong and Rees is top 10 at LW. But he won't trouble Broner and he's going to get worked. I'm more disappointed Burns ducked him like a pussy which left us with this fight.
I'll be rooting for Gavin Rees but I don't think he has a chance, especially since the fight will be in the US.
If it's close (which I doubt it will be) the officials will favor Broner because he's a Haymon-managed, Golden Boy-promoted HBO house fighter.
I didn't even have to read it and I already knew what it said.
I'll be rooting for Gavin Rees but I don't think he has a chance, especially since the fight will be in the US.
If it's close (which I doubt it will be) the officials will favor Broner because he's a Haymon-managed, Golden Boy-promoted HBO house fighter.
The fight could in Rees parents house in the living room with all his family there and his chances would be the same. I get that there is some home cooking from time to time, that happens in every country, but Broner will win because of his skills. Period.
Like I said in the other thread, people obviously have never heard of Rees and are over reacting.
It's not a great fight but Rees is in the Top 10 at 135 and it's solid.
It's not Broner's fault Burns and his team don't want the fight.
cmon irondan you know the drill. Broner is a "world class" fighter that some of the posters said couldn't move up to fight hank lundy becuase h]ank was a bum. those same posters thought lundy moving up to fight matthysse, before it was cancelled, was a good fight for matthysse, who is also a "world class" fighter.
i never understood how someone skills change relative to who they fight.
Like I said in the other thread, people obviously have never heard of Rees and are over reacting.
It's not a great fight but Rees is in the Top 10 at 135 and it's solid.
It's not Broner's fault Burns and his team don't want the fight.
Exactly. He could be fighting someone 2 weight classes below him at 135.....like another person mentioned a couple times in this thread.
I mean let's look at the Top 10 at 135:
Broner- Himself
Vazquez- http://ring tv. craveonline.com/blog/176415-vazquez-craves-shot-at-broner
He turned down the offer to fight Broner last November, and it's hard to envision a Zanfer fighter, who works with Top Rank, fighting a top Golden Boy fighter.
DeMarco- Already beat him
Burns- Still not keen on fighting Broner, hopefully this happens in May
Abril- Fighting Bogere
Bogere- Fighting Abril
That leaves Gavin Rees, Reymundo Beltran, John Murray, and Kevin Mitchell. I mean none of those are going to be big fights or tough fights for Broner really. Mitchell was just KO'd by Burns, I'm not sure Murray has fought since getting stopped by Rios, Beltran beat Lundy but I remember hearing HBO turned that fight down for October 6th, when Broner was suppose to fight in that date. I mean Gavin Rees is no world beater or tough fight for Broner, but it's a stay busy fight against a Top 10 opponent.
I've never seen anyone get so mad about a stay busy fight before. What would people here have said about Floyd fighting Juuko or Gerena as stay busy fights, or Pernell fighting Gavlan/Marquez at 135 tune ups in between his better fights, or Shane fighting Leija as a stay busy fight, the list could go on and on.
We have people on here saying Broner, age 23 and coming off beating the #1 fighter at his weight at the time, saying he's making such a terrible choice in Rees as a stay busy fight. And then defending Sergio Martinez when he fought Darren f**king Barer and now Martin Murray. I mean people need to at least keep it 100.
Like I said in the other thread, people obviously have never heard of Rees and are over reacting.
It's not a great fight but Rees is in the Top 10 at 135 and it's solid.
It's not Broner's fault Burns and his team don't want the fight.
My point is, Canelo is TRYING to fight the best fighter in or around his weightclass. How could that possibly be cherry picking? He's at least trying to fight what who is perceived to be the biggest threat/challenge. What is Broner doing? Guerrero punked him to his face and Broner pulled the "talking to my promoter" especially after all the b.s. he talked. Why can't his fans just admit that this fight is ****?
And I know you're smart enough to know that Guerrero is not a bigger threat than Canelo. Guerrero is pretty much tailor made for Floyd and of course, non of his fans want to bring that up. All of a sudden, Guerrero is a monster that can't be stopped.
Not one person or "Floyd fan" has made The Ghost out to be some monster that can't be stopped and you know that. Stop it with the hyperbole. 4Corners argument is clear and he has said (like I have said) is not big on the Floyd-Robert fight happening. But what he has consistently said is that Robert has at least beat top fighters in the WW division, that much can't be ignored. Canelo should have fought other top fighters by now, period.
the fight will be on REGULAR HBO...not PPV...so no need to pull your hair out...if dudes don't like the fight, don't watch it...I'm quite sure the pimps and players on this forum can find something better to do with a Saturday night than act lilke you're FORCED to chill in the crib and watch Broner work...c'mon now....don't let the negative energy get the best of yall...fight through it....keep it off with the jab and try landing some hard stuff to put it to rest....thats how I beat up the negative energy when it tries to move me a certain way....try it!!
Lost to Kotelnik. Short, slow, no defence, typical weak Brit.
So did maidana and Alexander although not officially , no shame in that he's a. Former WBA lww holder and lost once . And weak Brit ? It's normally the opposite u vvanker
Stop worrying about Donaire and Canelo. Worry about the farce we're gonna get served up as a headline event on HBO.
I understand Boner fans want to see the guy again but this fight in an insult.
I don't like it, but I've never really seen anyone get so pissed about a stay busy fight. I can't imagine what people would have said about Whitaker fighting some of the couple tune up/stay busy fights at 135 he had in between better fights.
I want to see Broner-Burns, do you think Burns will stop avoiding it???
broner is gonna get laughed at when everyone realizes he's fighting someone who's 5 feet tall. the guy on the right's 5'8. the guy on the left is rees. this is gonna be hilarious.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9GbLd2OMnSQ/0.jpg
:haha:
Damn that is just insane. "Broner #5 p4p".
Not a big fan of the Guerrero fight, but RIGHT NOW...it's more legit than Canelo is. Let Canelo win a good fight first....
If anything, Guerrero sounded like a punk when he said Broner would need to move up to 147 lbs to fight him, I mean it would have meant Broner jumping 3 weight classes at the time to fight Guerrero....not going to happen. That was all talk on both sides, that fight had 0% chance of happening and they both knew it.
This fight is a stay busy fight, hopefully Burns won't keep avoiding him....
We'll see, man. I really hope to see Gamboa in the mix because I know Broner can beat him. I'm just curious to see how Broner deals with Gamboa's speed and athleticism.