Is not clinching when hurt a weakness?

I'm not sure clinching would've been wise for Sergio against JCCj...clinching would've played right into JCCj's strengths. I disagree, I think not clinching in the 12th round nearly ended the fight for him there. He's lucky he was fighting Chavez Jr. and not someone better there. Now, if Martinez clinched like Seth Mitchel did against Jonathan Banks, holding around the waist and not tying up the arms, that'd be an issue. I think it's only acceptable to clinch when hurt, in fact, Emanuel Steward would implore fighters to clinch even if they have to drag the opponent down in the process when hurt. Roy Jones' clinch/smother after he was dropped by Lou Del Valle is the perfect example of how to survive when you're hurt.

I hear this thrown around a lot but from experience and many years of studying footage I don't think it is a weakness. In some fighters, definitely. But take for example Marquez or say Sergio Martinez, some maybe argue when they are hurt they are at their most dangerous! A lot of times when you have a fighter hurt, you go in for the kill and neglect defense. The last thing on your mind is them throwing combinations back. You have a guy hurt, on the ropes, honestly how many times/how many times do you jab your way in? How many times do you go for the kill? How many times do you think about keeping a tight D? You're between their legs, they're squared up - do you take things for granted> Bit drunk here just it came to mind and I feel its not actually your everyday convo if you get me. Hope you're all having a good Christmas! I guess it depends on the fighter and if they can fight when they are hurt. Maybe it would be foolish not to clinch for certain fighters, because they may just get knocked out anyway. I think a fighter who fights back when hurt should have experience when doing so. I wouldn't recommend it to a young fighter. I think once you've been hurt a few times, you have a better idea of what you can do during that time without really risking getting ko'd. That's just a guess, I've never been a boxer.

Fighters move, clinch, parry with punches, take a knee, trade, etc.

Clinching is never a weakness. It is one of the ways to stop an aggressive fighter who has hurt you and is going in for the finish.

Fighters are all different, Martinez knew clinching Jr when he was hurt would play right into jr hands, JMM is like a freaking tiger when hurt so you really have to be dumb to attack him when you think he is hurt because JMM would split venom right back at you when hurt. Apart from when a fighter is hurt I don't like excessive clinching like Hopkins does or like Ricky Hatton does, but some fighter like Khan or cotto can learn to clinch when hurt.

Clinching is illegal and refs should deduct points more often when dealing with clinchers.

It just depends on the boxer, some are more dangerous, some are going to get knocked out. Just watch the last fight with Pacquiao. After he was dropped the first time Marquez knew that he was still very dangerous, maybe even more than before he was knocked down, and that's why Marquez continued to wait for his chance instead of just going for the kill. this is one of the reasons Marquez is an ATG. Marquez has been hurt by by all levels of competition. Whether it's been pacquiao, Diaz, Barrera, katsidis, and even a smart an elusive Mayweather, he has never relied on clinching when hurt. Even when mayweather knocked him down Maquez was still trying to answer against mayweathers attack. Pac never had the same success against Marquez that he did with all his recent opponents. Unlike all of Pacs opponents who became hesitant or balled up when they were overwhelmed by the volume punching marquez was always punching with him.

It just depends on the boxer, some are more dangerous, some are going to get knocked out. Just watch the last fight with Pacquiao. After he was dropped the first time Marquez knew that he was still very dangerous, maybe even more than before he was knocked down, and that's why Marquez continued to wait for his chance instead of just going for the kill.

A weakness would be NOT clinching and getting yourself stopped. Hold, recover and as best as you can and then come back and give it all you have

I think for most fighters clinching when being seriously rocked is the smartest thing to do. You have no business trading with somebody when rocked if you have a weak chin, especially.

Id probably go for it unless it was Marquez. His shook up state is dangerous.

It seriously hurt Tommy Hearns. He didn't clinch or retreat and lost a few fights because of it.

Not clinching when you're really hurt is, most of the time, pretty dumb.

its all about who u r fighting imo some guys want a guy close so clinching plays right into there hands imo if martinez trys to clinch jr he couldve ran into something even worse. amir khan is the worst at knowing when to clinch i.e garcia he tried to fight garcia from the outside when he was hurt. he kept pushing him off instead of holding tying him pushing him on the ropes.

Part of it is also who is fighting you. It may work for Marquez if he was hurt bad and keeping the exchange going against Pacquiao, but how would this work against an elusive, patient fighter? Think about it, if Ward, Mayweather or Wlad have you hurt, do you really think the best thing would be to try and exchange with them. Of course there are situations where it works better to fight back and not hold (Marquez picks them very well, I doubt he would've tried to exchange with Mayweather if he was ever out on his feet. Thankfully he was not). If you land one good punch and back them off and reconsider, that's better than them bulling you around or hitting you on the inside (Martinez Vs. Chavez)

Katsidis made a reference to this after the fight, he said he was hesitant to go in for the kill because he knew how dangerous Marquez was when hurt. Although it did seem like he stepped up his offensive, to no success Marquez was landing combos by the end of the round. Katsidis is a lot more intelligent than people give him credit for & tbh I don't think he did much wrong in that fight he was just outgunned. It was a beautiful performance from both guys and maybe one of my personal favourites of all time. Too his credit he didn't rush in, he tried applying intelligent pressure IMO but once you hit Marquez on the button, 9/10 you've woken a beast. That shot and the way Marquez came back is why I love boxing. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and it made my heart race! For me that was one of the most criminally underrated fights maybe ever.

This is true. But do you feel you when you boxed you took it a bit too much for granted/most fighters do? I can't help but look at Marquez, the guy amazes me how he is able to somehow stay composed even when seemingly out and fire back such beautiful combinations. I almost pity opponents when they have him hurt, knowing they're going to try go in for the kill to likely meet their fate. Katsidis made a reference to this after the fight, he said he was hesitant to go in for the kill because he knew how dangerous Marquez was when hurt. Although it did seem like he stepped up his offensive, to no success Marquez was landing combos by the end of the round.

No not at all some fighters are more dangerous when hurt,every fighter is wired differently This is true. But do you feel you when you boxed you took it a bit too much for granted/most fighters do? I can't help but look at Marquez, the guy amazes me how he is able to somehow stay composed even when seemingly out and fire back such beautiful combinations. I almost pity opponents when they have him hurt, knowing they're going to try go in for the kill to likely meet their fate.

out of the 12 times Marquez has gotten dropped I think i've only seen Marquez clinch once or twice and it was to reset himself for a counter attack as oppose to clinching because he was hurt. I personally can't stand clinchers that clinch as part of their offensive strategy like Ward, Alexander and Molina do. I do think it's permissible to clinch if you're hurt

I'm not sure clinching would've been wise for Sergio against JCCj...clinching would've played right into JCCj's strengths.