When he was injured??or after he lost to Hatton? floyds first fight at 140 was in may 2004..Kosta returned in nov 2004 for a Shamba Mitchell rematch then lost to Hatton...so how in the hell did Floyd duck him?
when lineal champs refuse to fight the best then the lineage is broken in my eyes. you can't just freeze out certain fighters and expect to be called "the man" you arent. you are a ducking fraud. none of those lineal bum champs fought margarito who was #1 for 4 years or pac who was #1 for 4 years. you can't keep your lineage forever otherwise is zsolt erdei still the 175 pound lineal champ? hey he hasn't lost he must be!
so after mosley entered the ring calling him out and everone demanded this fight..if floyd did not fight him it would be a duck,everyone was calling it before he signed to fight him,,and check any website floyd is the lineal ww champion still
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pernell whitaker (1993-1997)
oscar de la hoya (1997-1999)
felix trinidad, jr. (1999-2000; vacated title)
"sugar" shane mosley (2000-2002)
vernon forrest (2002-2003)
ricardo mayorga (2003)
cory spinks (2003-2005)
zab judah (2005-2006)
carlos baldomir (2006)
floyd mayweather, jr. (2006-2008; retired from weight class)
"sugar" shane mosley (2009-2010)
floyd mayweather, jr. (2010-present)
No Pac, Cotto, Margarito or Clottey... lol
so after mosley entered the ring calling him out and everone demanded this fight..if floyd did not fight him it would be a duck,everyone was calling it before he signed to fight him,,and check any website FLOYD IS THE LINEAL WW CHAMPION STILL
if he wasn't gonna fight Pac, Shane was the next best choice
doesn't change the fact that Shane was shot
if people are recognizing Floyd as lineal, it's continuation
maybe they retcon his "retirement"
but no new lineage has been established at WW
Cotto, Tony, nor Shane was lineal champ
and this has gone off topic of Floyd "ducking" Kostya
that's ok since he didn't duck him, but you've derailed your own thread
doesn't matter if Mosley was #1
he was shot, and Floyd didn't become lineal by beating him
and fuck Baldomir, because he sucks balls
Ortiz is a decent win for Floyd, not good or bad, just decent
being #2 in the division means shit when the division sucks
so after mosley entered the ring calling him out and everone demanded this fight..if floyd did not fight him it would be a duck,everyone was calling it before he signed to fight him,,and check any website FLOYD IS THE LINEAL WW CHAMPION STILL
Paddy Duffy (1888-1890; died 7/10/1890, not 7/19/1890)
"Mysterious" Billy Smith (1892-1894)
Tommy Ryan (1894-1898; Vacated title)
"Mysterious" Billy Smith (1898-1900)
William "Matty" Matthews(1900)
Eddie Connolly (1900)
James "Rube" Ferns (1900)
William "Matty" Matthews (1900-1901)
James "Rube" Ferns (1901)
Joe Walcott (1901-1904)
Dixie Kid (1904; Outgrew division)
Billy "Honey" Mellody (1906-1907)
Mike "Twin" Sullivan (1907-1908; Vacated title)
1908-1914 -- A mad scramble for the welterweight title followed Sullivan's reign. Among the claimants were Frank Mantell, Harry Lewis, Jimmy Gardner, Jimmy Clabby, Perry "Kid" Graves and future champs Jack Britton and Ted "Kid" Lewis.
Waldemar Holberg (1914)
Tom McCormick (1914)
Matt Wells (1914-1915)
Mike Glover (1915)
Jack Britton (1915)
Ted "Kid" Lewis (1915-1916)
Jack Britton (1916-1917)
Ted "Kid' Lewis (1917-1919)
Jack Britton (1919-1922)
Mickey Walker (1922-1926)
Pete Latzo (1926-1927)
Joe Dundee (1927-1929)
Jackie Fields (1929-1930)
"Young" Jack Thompson (1930)
Tommy Freeman (1930-1931)
"Young" Jack Thompson (1931)
Lou Brouillard (1931-1932)
Jackie Fields (1932-1933)
Young Corbett III (1933)
Jimmy McLarnin (1933-1934)
Barney Ross (1934)
Jimmy McLarnin (1934-1935)
Barney Ross (1935-1938)
Henry Armstrong (1938-1940)
Fritzie Zivic (1940-1941)
Freddie "Red" Cochrane (1941-1946)
Marty Servo (1946; Vacated title)
"Sugar" Ray Robinson (1946; Vacated crown 1950)
Kid Gavilan (1951-1954)
Johnny Saxton (1954-1955)
Tony DeMarco (1955)
Carmen Basilio (1955-1956)
Johnny Saxton (1956)
Carmen Basilio (1956-1957; Relinquished crown)
Virgil Akins (1958)
Don Jordan (1958-1960)
Benny "Kid" Paret (1960-1961)
Emile Griffith (1961)
Benny "Kid" Paret (1961-1962)
Emile Griffith (1962-1963)
Luis Manuel Rodriguez (1963)
Emile Griffith (1963-1966; Vacated title)
Curtis Cokes (1966-1969)
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles (1969-1970)
Billy Backus (1970-1971)
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles (1971-1975)
John H. Stracey(1975-1976)
Carlos Palomino (1976-1979)
Wilfred Benitez(1979)
"Sugar" Ray Leonard(1979-1980)
Roberto Duran (1980)
"Sugar" Ray Leonard (1980-1982; Vacated title )
Donald Curry (1985-1986)
Lloyd Honeyghan (1986-1987)
Jorge Vaca (1987-1988)
Lloyd Honeyghan (1988-1989)
Marlon Starling (1989-1990)
Maurice Blocker (1990-1991)
Simon Brown (1991)
James "Buddy" McGirt (1991-1993)
Pernell Whitaker (1993-1997)
Oscar De La Hoya (1997-1999)
Felix Trinidad, Jr. (1999-2000; Vacated title)
"Sugar" Shane Mosley (2000-2002)
Vernon Forrest (2002-2003)
Ricardo Mayorga (2003)
Cory Spinks (2003-2005)
Zab Judah (2005-2006)
Carlos Baldomir (2006)
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (2006-2008; Retired from weight class)
"Sugar" Shane Mosley (2009-2010)
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (2010-Present)
fact is floyd has the best ww resume in recent years,no other fighter has defeated 2 #1's there along with the #2.\,not 1 else is a 3time champion there and a lineal champ..and yes he is still lineal cause he beat shane who was #1 there call him shot if you want but he was the #1 ww and #3 p4p
doesn't matter if Mosley was #1
he was shot, and Floyd didn't become lineal by beating him
and fuck Baldomir, because he sucks balls
Ortiz is a decent win for Floyd, not good or bad, just decent
being #2 in the division means shit when the division sucks
there's other threads going rehashing floyd's ww ducks
baldomir sucks, mosley was shot (yes he was shot vs pac too)
and the lineage retired with floyd in 08
just enjoy the beating he's gonna put on guerrero
fact is floyd has the best ww resume in recent years,no other fighter has defeated 2 #1's there along with the #2.\,not 1 else is a 3time champion there and a lineal champ..and yes he is still lineal cause he beat shane who was #1 there call him shot if you want but he was the #1 ww and #3 p4p
He never ducked Kostya Tszyu.
If you get in to an argument with these fools long enough, you will start hearing Floyd ducked Vivian Harris.
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I have read all the posts so far and no one is saying he ducked Tszyu and I know I don't think he ducked Tszyu so maybe very few think he ducked Tszyu. I do read he is ducking Martinez from a few guys on here and I don't agree with that because he should not have to fight outside his weight class. I don't think he ducked anyone but all famous fighters get accused of ducking guys.Donaire, Ward, Pacquiao and Martinez get accused of ducking guys too. These big stars don't fight that often and they can't fight every top guy at the same time.
for the people saying he ducked martinez, first off there has never been any negotiations and martinez has a fight coming in april and floyd is set to fight in may, how n the heck is that a duck?
who did he duck there???
he has defeated the #1 guy 2 times
the #2 guy
won 3 world title there
is the lineal champion there
there's other threads going rehashing Floyd's WW ducks
Baldomir sucks, Mosley was shot (yes he was shot vs Pac too)
and the lineage retired with Floyd in 08
just enjoy the beating he's gonna put on Guerrero
Larryx at it again :laugh:
need more whores Larryx, like always
but anyway, who said he ducked Kostya?
Floyd didn't duck people until he hit the WW division
who did he duck there???
he has defeated the #1 guy 2 times
the #2 guy
won 3 world title there
is the lineal champion there
People who say Mayweather ducked Tszyu didn't follow boxing at that time.
It's really as simple as that.
Someone should have said this a long time ago. Obvious truth
Larryx at it again :laugh:
need more whores Larryx, like always
but anyway, who said he ducked Kostya?
Floyd didn't duck people until he hit the WW division
Floyd wanted Kostya the moment he got to 140. They were going to face off right after Hatton-Kostya. Hatton gets the upset win. Floyd tries to fight Hatton, Hatton ducks him. He tries to fight Cotto, no bueno, so he goes up to 147 when he can't get the bout he wants.
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only fight floyd shouldve made happen if he couldve considering the top rank beef was cotto after cotto beat mosley n he beat hatton.
This this this. That is the ONLY fight I won't argue if someone says Floyd ducked him. Floyd could have fought an undefeated Cotto in 2008 and been the man for it. Face DLH in a rematch, then Cotto but he retired for two years.
Floyd wanted Kostya the moment he got to 140. They were going to face off right after Hatton-Kostya. Hatton gets the upset win. Floyd tries to fight Hatton, Hatton ducks him. He tries to fight Cotto, no bueno, so he goes up to 147 when he can't get the bout he wants.
Floyd has never ducked anyone in his entire career. Not once. You think somebody who can fight as good as Mayweather would be scared of people? Are you people really this damn slow and hateful towards the guy. Retards.