Is Adamek one of the best wins on Vitali's resume?

Peter beat Toney twice. Rahman, who beat Lewis, couldn't beat Toney. I'm not inferring that Vitali is better than Lewis; I'm just trying to put things in perspective. I haven't seen the Cunningham fight, but after his fight with Chambers and now this, I think it is fair to say Adamek is done. This shouldn't be shocking. Many fighters are done by age 36. Although Adamek was 34 or 35 when he fought Vitali, I still think it is 1 of Vitali's biggest wins because VK was 40 at the time. The first fight with Toney-Peter was a disgusting robbery (I think atlas was at that fight going crazy lol), he won the 2nd fight convincingly though. Toney boxed beautifully that first fight and made him really look amateurish. Didn't see the Rahman fight but someone said Rahman won, so idk about that.

?? Are you suggesting that 40 year old Vitali was on PEDs? I know he has a history of steroid use but he wouldn't need them to beat Adamek.

It says a lot about the quality (or lack thereof) of that resume, then. Doesn't it? Not everyone suddenly has miracle peformances at 39 like the man in your avatar.

Nobody else has even looked like stopping Adamek in his 50 fight career, so of course it's a good win.

I remember many people saying Adamek would be the guy to solve the Klitschko riddle. To just get in there and let the hands go because that's supposedly what everyone else failed to do. And, once again, that myth was dispelled. What a brutal beating that was. Vitali looked like he wasn't even enjoying it.

Lennox TKO 6. Remember?

I think Vitali's best win was against Lewis.

Adamek was an accomplished cruiser and had a dominant win over Arreola. Dominant? Arreola was bouncing him around the ring with every punch. I had Arreola winning that fight close, and if the big man hadn't injured his right hand or arm or whatever with 3 rounds to go, I think Adamek was probably going to get stopped. Not to nitpick, but yeah...anything but dominant. That being said, I think Vitali has beaten 3 legitimate top 3 contenders, and they are Peter, Adamek, and Sanders. So from the perspective of the opponent's accomplishment level, clearly I think he's got to be one of the top 3. But I think in terms of actual subjective quality of the opponent...probably not. Adamek only got to the point of being ranked that high by cherry picking his opponents. By the time he fought Vitali, Adamek's abilities as a heavyweight probably were barely top-10 level, in my opinion.

It says a lot about the quality (or lack thereof) of that resume, then. Doesn't it?

I say definitely.

Peter beat Toney twice. Rahman, who beat Lewis, couldn't beat Toney. I'm not inferring that Vitali is better than Lewis; I'm just trying to put things in perspective. I haven't seen the Cunningham fight, but after his fight with Chambers and now this, I think it is fair to say Adamek is done. This shouldn't be shocking. Many fighters are done by age 36. Although Adamek was 34 or 35 when he fought Vitali, I still think it is 1 of Vitali's biggest wins because VK was 40 at the time. toney clearly won the first fight against peter and rahman clearly beat toney in the first fight. rahman was also a guy vitali wanted no part of.

Easily his best, Sanders was already done as a fighter even after his win over Wlad, it's just that Wlad was so chinny Sanders had an easy time. Before his fight with Vitali he'd even retired to become a pro golfer, he was also like 38 years old. Peter was never good, he had power but that was it. He got schooled badly after the Wlad fight by Toney, went on to get dropped what, 4 times? Against McCline, I think Maskaev even rocked him in their next fight, then went on to fight Vitali. Adamek was an accomplished cruiser and had a dominant win over Arreola. Peter beat Toney twice. Rahman, who beat Lewis, couldn't beat Toney. I'm not inferring that Vitali is better than Lewis; I'm just trying to put things in perspective. I haven't seen the Cunningham fight, but after his fight with Chambers and now this, I think it is fair to say Adamek is done. This shouldn't be shocking. Many fighters are done by age 36. Although Adamek was 34 or 35 when he fought Vitali, I still think it is 1 of Vitali's biggest wins because VK was 40 at the time.

You don't think Corrie Sanders was better than Adamek, Cliff? As a fighter in general? Not even close. At Heavyweight? Interesting fight. I think Adamek has enough beard to get out of the first few rounds. Sanders had awful stamina. I think Adamek could have beat him. Pick 'em fight. I see someone included the Moby Dick version of Kirk Johnson. That got a good chuckle. I know Adamek was better than him. I'd take Adamek over Peter too though, again, tough fight because it could end on a dime. You can make a case for Sanders on a different standard though: he matched up with Vitali a little better. Still, he matched up well for a couple rounds and then done.

Hell no! Vitali was expected to win, and Adamek was given no chance to win.

Easily his best, Sanders was already done as a fighter even after his win over Wlad, it's just that Wlad was so chinny Sanders had an easy time. Before his fight with Vitali he'd even retired to become a pro golfer, he was also like 38 years old. Peter was never good, he had power but that was it. He got schooled badly after the Wlad fight by Toney, went on to get dropped what, 4 times? Against McCline, I think Maskaev even rocked him in their next fight, then went on to fight Vitali. Adamek was an accomplished cruiser and had a dominant win over Arreola.

You don't think Corrie Sanders was better than Adamek, Cliff?

I would say his wins over Peter, Kirk Johnson & Sanders were better. I think Hide is as good and maybe Solis if he bounces back well.

I asked this when Kevin Johnson lost a few weeks ago so now it's Adamek's turn. (Officially he didn't "lose" but we all saw what happened in the fight.) He's either THE BEST win or the second. I think Adamek stood a solid chance to beat Sanders so I'd say best. Juan Carlos Gomez might be up there too but he was pretty far past it. Herbie Hide is in the running too.