What would it do for Marquez's legacy if he knocked out Floyd?

...Well we both agree Marquez was juiced for Part4. Clearly. About Manny being on PEDs ... hey, i'm not gonna anything is impossible, because its not, but, clinically speaking, I never had any outright suspicion that Manny was juiced. If you were raised poor in the Phillipines and never really ate like us Americans, you would have been looking like a skeleton and all emaciated like Manny used too. Do you remember how cut and shredded Manny used to be back at 125? He use to be shredded and cut, but he wasn't BIG. He was still small. Fast forward to now. Look at Marquez. He is & , that can't happen in human body with out drugs. You either build muscle mass or you get cut .... you don't get both. If you were working to get cut, and have low body fat, the lactic acid buildup would negate the musclemass from properly forming. Opposite, if you want to build only musclemass and increase size, you are going to consume alot of calories and huge amounts of protein .. probably 2.5grams per pound of the individuals body weight. The problem here is consuming all those calories to build the muscle will prevent your body from getting below around 12 percent bodyfat. Marquez was at 5 percent bodyfat. You don't get huge musclemass gains & low bodyfat. You get one OR the other. NOT BOTH Back to Manny Pacquiao for a minute. As Manny proceeded through the weight classes, one thing that I noticed was that his flex pose he usually does at the weighin's, is that he wasn't as cut and shredded as he use to be at 125lb. That to me, looks clinically proper and correct. Physiologically, if you were a person who came from a poor background, and you never really ate like us Americans - Then got with a Strength & Conditioning coach who was force feeding you so your body chemistry would change ..... you are gonna be able to do more and preform better than you used to. Do I think Manny was juicing or on PEDs, No I don't. If you think that Manny was on PEDs, and i'm not saying anything is impossible here, but, there would have been some point in time that his body got swollen and bulked up out of nowhere ... kinda like the new JMM2.0 we saw last weekend. We've never ever saw that transformation in Manny. Once again, nothings impossible, but it never appeared Manny was juiced from my professional opinion. I deal with this stuff weekly so I can spot a PED user pretty easy. I always thought Manny was clean. Manny always fought with great tenacity, and THAT is why he was winning fights. Thats my professional opinion. If you want me to go all devil's advocate for ya though i'll say this, I personally could have juiced JMM with EPO as a base, supplemented with some rHGH @ 10IU's a week, stacked with some testosterone & been able to pass the bullshit state urine screening. As for Olympic style random testing you need to use enzyme therapy to degrade the samples for false negatives. Easily done if you know the chemical makeup of the specific drugs you're using in the client. Angel Hernandez certainly has those connections. He will have the tests beat whether they are urine, random or blood anyhow .... so I guess JMM will just be able to get away with anything for the rest of his career. The bad guys got there hands on the science. That's what the problem is here. Another thing to think about is this: That way in which the human body gets down to 5 percent bodyfat leaves it absolutely starved and out of energy. The body at 5 percent bodyfat, physiologically speaking, would have no endurance or stamina. Marquez certainly wasn't weak looking, nor did he lack energy in the ring, which he would have if he was naturally able to cut down to 5 percent bodyfat. OK, I hear you on the physical appearance, but Im going by the amount of punishment that he was able to take at the higher weight classes. Walking thru hard shots..from naturally bigger fighters with real KO power. And his ability to keep full focus while absorbing some serious punishment...thats why I say he had to be taking something..

Pacquiao was killing marquez.. I finally watched the fight. I was expecting to see Marquez dominating and he was getting killed and just landed a lucky punch at the bell..I thought Paq was handling him easier than the previous fights..

The same Marquez that tested clean after the fight? Or a different one?:boxing: post fight piss tests are a joke. a novice could pass one. memo heredia would honestly scoff at the idea that he could be caught with one of those.

Guys, check these two PEDS magicians out talking to each other about Pac and Marquez being juiced, lmao!

that would put him as the GOAT of mexican boxing. but thats too much wishful thinkful. the clash of styles is so sad for marquez.

@ onetwopunch Good, im not in the field of sports medicine, but I have seen people on and off peds. We agree that Marquez was clearly on peds for his last fight againts Pac. Thats just common sense 39 years old..and he never looked so muscular his entire carreer. Now Pac, I believe was on peds, for numerous fights a good example was the Cotto fight, Pac took some monster shots from Cotto..to the point that he had a head cast on after the fight, his ear was bleeding..(word was going around that he had a busted ear drum). Now he ate Cottos shots and never lost focus or balance..It just doesnt seem right. A good example of him not being on Peds was for the Bradley fight and the last Marquez fight. He wasnt able to walk thru shots and do damage like he did againts Cotto, DLH, Barrera, the last Morales fight..were talking about heavy fisted guys. And im not hating on Marquez for using Peds..he gave Pac some of his own medicine. ...Well we both agree Marquez was juiced for Part4. Clearly. About Manny being on PEDs ... hey, i'm not gonna anything is impossible, because its not, but, clinically speaking, I never had any outright suspicion that Manny was juiced. If you were raised poor in the Phillipines and never really ate like us Americans, you would have been looking like a skeleton and all emaciated like Manny used too. Do you remember how cut and shredded Manny used to be back at 125? He use to be shredded and cut, but he wasn't BIG. He was still small. Fast forward to now. Look at Marquez. He is & , that can't happen in human body with out drugs. You either build muscle mass or you get cut .... you don't get both. If you were working to get cut, and have low body fat, the lactic acid buildup would negate the musclemass from properly forming. Opposite, if you want to build only musclemass and increase size, you are going to consume alot of calories and huge amounts of protein .. probably 2.5grams per pound of the individuals body weight. The problem here is consuming all those calories to build the muscle will prevent your body from getting below around 12 percent bodyfat. Marquez was at 5 percent bodyfat. You don't get huge musclemass gains & low bodyfat. You get one OR the other. NOT BOTH Back to Manny Pacquiao for a minute. As Manny proceeded through the weight classes, one thing that I noticed was that his flex pose he usually does at the weighin's, is that he wasn't as cut and shredded as he use to be at 125lb. That to me, looks clinically proper and correct. Physiologically, if you were a person who came from a poor background, and you never really ate like us Americans - Then got with a Strength & Conditioning coach who was force feeding you so your body chemistry would change ..... you are gonna be able to do more and preform better than you used to. Do I think Manny was juicing or on PEDs, No I don't. If you think that Manny was on PEDs, and i'm not saying anything is impossible here, but, there would have been some point in time that his body got swollen and bulked up out of nowhere ... kinda like the new JMM2.0 we saw last weekend. We've never ever saw that transformation in Manny. Once again, nothings impossible, but it never appeared Manny was juiced from my professional opinion. I deal with this stuff weekly so I can spot a PED user pretty easy. I always thought Manny was clean. Manny always fought with great tenacity, and THAT is why he was winning fights. Thats my professional opinion. If you want me to go all devil's advocate for ya though i'll say this, I personally could have juiced JMM with EPO as a base, supplemented with some rHGH @ 10IU's a week, stacked with some testosterone & been able to pass the bullshit state urine screening. As for Olympic style random testing you need to use enzyme therapy to degrade the samples for false negatives. Easily done if you know the chemical makeup of the specific drugs you're using in the client. Angel Hernandez certainly has those connections. He will have the tests beat whether they are urine, random or blood anyhow .... so I guess JMM will just be able to get away with anything for the rest of his career. The bad guys got there hands on the science. That's what the problem is here. Another thing to think about is this: That way in which the human body gets down to 5 percent bodyfat leaves it absolutely starved and out of energy. The body at 5 percent bodyfat, physiologically speaking, would have no endurance or stamina. Marquez certainly wasn't weak looking, nor did he lack energy in the ring, which he would have if he was naturally able to cut down to 5 percent bodyfat.

With Pac being knocked out, and Floyd beating Marquez, I guess we're back to square one. What was square one again? Oh, Floyd's a rich coward, lmao! Bring back the DJ's and ex fighters who all said what about Floyd, lmao!

He'd become the greatest Mexican fighter ever!

@Floyd Mayweather "Ya'll know i'ma be a scared rich coward" ...Floyd we have all been knowing this for a while already.

wouldnt mean much considerin floyd is some ducker n coward who cherry picked his whole career i think thats everything

what would my auntie look like if she were my uncle? "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle"

what would my auntie look like if she were my uncle?

Marquez tested clean, but do you really think a guy at 39 all of a sudden gets a physic like that naturally?..at 39 your testerone is not the same as when your 25..and he never looked so strong his entire carreer..Im not hating on Marquez at all he gave Pac some of his own medicine.. He never really lifted weights either. He was throwing rocks to bulk up for Gayweather.

He already knocked mayweather out in the balls department. He sure did. Mayweather was still thinking of excuses when Marquez said step aside Mary I'll take the fight.LMFAO

it would do everything. its floyd your talking about if he knocked out floyd and pac man he would be up there with greatest fighters in history as fare as credentials

Marquez is clean get over it and stop crying. Even if he passed olympic testing you would say he was on some undetectable ****. Marquez must be keeping you idiots up at night. Marquez tested clean, but do you really think a guy at 39 all of a sudden gets a physic like that naturally?..at 39 your testerone is not the same as when your 25..and he never looked so strong his entire carreer..Im not hating on Marquez at all he gave Pac some of his own medicine..

I think Marquez2.0 has a shot at doing it to be honest. Memo, will have the tests beat too. It sure wont be like part1. It will catapult him to JCC level. I'm in sports medicine. JMM2.0 was Performance Enhanced to the max. He was also properly cycled off and cleansed too. Like I said, i'm in sports medicine, and I administer PEDs, but I never thought Manny Pacquiao was on anything .... Why do you? Examples? Give me your examples, and i'll give you multiple anti-examples. I administer PEDs to my clients, I'm in sports medicine. If you give me a date of an event, thats say 4 months away ... I can administer EPO for a base, along with 2 or 3 other PEDs and at the 30day mark before the event, cut the cycle, flush the clients system with enzyme therapy to erode the markers for the additional 2 or 3 PEDs and pass any test. ... The EPO itself is gone in 2 days, but all the extra red blood cells are still there for about 2 months. More red blood cells=more internal blood pressure/force, thus more strength & endurance. If I can do it, best believe Memo can too. So, even though JMM's PED test came back negative, I could do the same thing with any of my clients .... State tests=Joke. He sure did. He KO'd the guy who Floyd ducked blatantly with multiple excuses. I think JMM2.0 vs Floyd part 2 would play out differently now. Memo would be on point with his scheduling, still be able to juice JMM, and still beat the tests. I would say Floyd gets KO'd too, just like Manny Pacquiao. Angel Memo has things to a science. He knows how to beat the tests. He knew how to beat the tests AT the Olympics, best believe he knows how to beat testing on boxers of PEDs that he already knows the chemical composition of. Good, im not in the field of sports medicine, but I have seen people on and off peds. We agree that Marquez was clearly on peds for his last fight againts Pac. Thats just common sense 39 years old..and he never looked so muscular his entire carreer. Now Pac, I believe was on peds, for numerous fights a good example was the Cotto fight, Pac took some monster shots from Cotto..to the point that he had a head cast on after the fight, his ear was bleeding..(word was going around that he had a busted ear drum). Now he ate Cottos shots and never lost focus or balance..It just doesnt seem right. A good example of him not being on Peds was for the Bradley fight and the last Marquez fight. He wasnt able to walk thru shots and do damage like he did againts Cotto, DLH, Barrera, the last Morales fight..were talking about heavy fisted guys. And im not hating on Marquez for using Peds..he gave Pac some of his own medicine.

A KO of Floyd would send his legacy sky high and pretty much undo any harm his earlier one sided loss to Floyd did to his legacy.

Coming on top of his great KO of Pacquiao it would send his legacy through the roof.

That Marquez wont make it past random Olympic style testing. There are ways to cycle the use of peds so that it doesnt get picked up. Marquez is clean get over it and stop crying. Even if he passed olympic testing you would say he was on some undetectable ****. Marquez must be keeping you idiots up at night.