Manny took on the fighter that people claimed had his card. Floyd fans cannot deny this as they took every opportunity to remind everyone that Marquez has beat him in every encounter. Pacquiao got knocked out and that's just what happens in the sport. It's unpredictable. But now Floyd is fighting Guerrero? All of a sudden, Guerrero is the most deserving fighter? Cmon man. This is exactly the kind of bull**** that ****s up the sport.
This whole, "I don't mind this fight as long as he is going to fight later on" bull**** needs to go. Why do we have to put up with that? Is that how ****ty Floyd's resume is that his fans have to resort to saying that? You guys say that EVERY OTHER FIGHT. And then comes the next response to this criticism. "Well, who else could he fight? There's no one else available." There's no one else available because Floyd waits for other threats to choose fights. No one can say that Floyd could have negotiated with Martinez for a fight especially when Sergio has said he'd go down to 154 for it. The Mayweather camp could have showed legit interest in Martinez and Murray fight wouldn't have been negotiated.
This is why this dude was not fighter of the decade. He just doesn't want to look bad. He doesn't want to be in a fight where he appears to be less than in control. But "business is business" and Guerrero is just a marketing ploy to set a Canelo fight because of the hispanic market right? I thought Floyd was the most popular fighter in history of the universe. Why does the "face of boxing" need marketing ploys? Can't he sell any fight? Isn't that what Floyd fans have been saying all this time?
Manny took on the fighter that people claimed had his card. Floyd fans cannot deny this as they took every opportunity to remind everyone that Marquez has beat him in every encounter. Pacquiao got knocked out and that's just what happens in the sport. It's unpredictable. But now Floyd is fighting Guerrero? All of a sudden, Guerrero is the most deserving fighter? Cmon man. This is exactly the kind of bull**** that ****s up the sport.
This whole, "I don't mind this fight as long as he is going to fight later on" bull**** needs to go. Why do we have to put up with that? Is that how ****ty Floyd's resume is that his fans have to resort to saying that? You guys say that EVERY OTHER FIGHT. And then comes the next response to this criticism. "Well, who else could he fight? There's no one else available." There's no one else available because Floyd waits for other threats to choose fights. No one can say that Floyd could have negotiated with Martinez for a fight especially when Sergio has said he'd go down to 154 for it. The Mayweather camp could have showed legit interest in Martinez and Murray fight wouldn't have been negotiated.
This is why this dude was not fighter of the decade. He just doesn't want to look bad. He doesn't want to be in a fight where he appears to be less than in control. But "business is business" and Guerrero is just a marketing ploy to set a Canelo fight because of the hispanic market right? I thought Floyd was the most popular fighter in history of the universe. Why does the "face of boxing" need marketing ploys? Can't he sell any fight? Isn't that what Floyd fans have been saying all this time?
There this old saying, "When keeping it real goes wrong"! In Manny's case it was "when cherry picking goes horribly wrong"!
FREDDIE ROACH ADMITS that he thought JMM age was going to cacth up . so the only reason they fought him was becaues they thought he was past it
CHERRYPICK GONE WRONG skip to 53 mark on the the video
Manny took on the fighter that people claimed had his card. Floyd fans cannot deny this as they took every opportunity to remind everyone that Marquez has beat him in every encounter. Pacquiao got knocked out and that's just what happens in the sport. It's unpredictable. But now Floyd is fighting Guerrero? All of a sudden, Guerrero is the most deserving fighter? Cmon man. This is exactly the kind of bull**** that ****s up the sport.
This whole, "I don't mind this fight as long as he is going to fight later on" bull**** needs to go. Why do we have to put up with that? Is that how ****ty Floyd's resume is that his fans have to resort to saying that? You guys say that EVERY OTHER FIGHT. And then comes the next response to this criticism. "Well, who else could he fight? There's no one else available." There's no one else available because Floyd waits for other threats to choose fights. No one can say that Floyd could have negotiated with Martinez for a fight especially when Sergio has said he'd go down to 154 for it. The Mayweather camp could have showed legit interest in Martinez and Murray fight wouldn't have been negotiated.
This is why this dude was not fighter of the decade. He just doesn't want to look bad. He doesn't want to be in a fight where he appears to be less than in control. But "business is business" and Guerrero is just a marketing ploy to set a Canelo fight because of the hispanic market right? I thought Floyd was the most popular fighter in history of the universe. Why does the "face of boxing" need marketing ploys? Can't he sell any fight? Isn't that what Floyd fans have been saying all this time?
The last 2 pac fights were money grabs stop acting like they were challenges. Why do guys like you have to be so ****img fake about manny just because you love him?
Ive said numerous times that the Pacquiao camp was afraid of Martinez. Look up my thread history. But at least Pacuqiao took on a challenge
Hardly anybody gave Marquez a chance of winning the 3rd fight. It was one of the all time great cherry picks that backfired. Pacquiao was not challenging himself when he picked the fight. It only became a challenge when Marquez showed up and wasn't going to lay down for anybody. He picked Marquez for one reason and one reason only and that was because he looked so damn terrible at the weight against Floyd.
I'm not defending Floyd's inactivity btw just failing to see how Manny gets credit for getting KTFO by Marquez & Floyd gets zero credit for schooling Marquez. I bring this up as you seem to be praising Manny for it and he also made Marquez go up in weight.
Because Manny was dominating the fight, yes he was getting tagged as well but that happens in every fight including the hatton fight but he was beating up marquez
one shot k0s happen, better guys have had it happen, then they fight them again and win easily, I would bet a lot to say the same with happen with manny and marquez
for me, I have no issues with the floyd fight, I think he is smart, he always has canelo fighting with him to boost sales to make himself look better and tries to take all of the credit lol
at the end of the day, guer is the number 1 contender
again marquez proved that he was a dangerous opponent for pac regardless of weight class. this was shown in the third fight, no? and he didn't go life and death with katsidis lmao.....
hey moron you do know there is a video of Freddie Roach saying they only fougth JMM the third time becaues they thougth he was pass it and many boxng experts also thougth JMM had lost a step too
Mayweather feels this is the "safest" fight avalible for now! Guerrero comes to fight but he lacks one punch ability to change a fight quickly and thats what Floyd is most concerned about! He stopped being a fighting champion a long time ago and will finish out his career very carefully trying to get to 50-0 as if he's a Heavyweight!!! hahahaha!!
Now kids you should know by now that "styles make fights" so comparing common opponents doesn't hold to much weight in boxing!!! How could lil Joe Frazier power give Ali hell and Big Georges more power do nothing??? STYLES!
Ray.
See, this is the difference between you and I. I'm a fan of the sport, not just of a fighter. I'll call it like I see it. My favorite fighter is Marquez and then Chad Dawson. So I don't even know why you assume Manny is my dude. Even if he was, Id tell it straight up. If my favorite fighter is being a *****, I'm going to call him a *****.
Why do you assume that I assume Manny is your guy?
Do you even know who I am? Do you think I don't know you?
I know that you are anti-Floyd, not a Pacquiao fan. You looked like Cotto's biggest fan when the Mayweather-Cotto rivalry was going on in 2008.
And who do you think you're fooling with this "I'm a fan of the sport" crap. If you're a fan of the sport, you wouldn't say it. That's like the people who are self-proclaimed "humble". You don't say that, you don't label yourself.
Everybody knows you, you've been a Floyd hater since post #1. You don' fool any one with your "I tell it like it is" bullsh-t. You might fool these 2011-2012 posters, yeah. But every one knows who you are. You don't call it like it is, you call it how all Floyd haters call it.
F-cking pathetic title/post. At least he challenged himself by fighting Pacquiao. Come on.
Didn't Floyd make Marquez move from lightweight even missed the weight and he still gets credit? and Floyd fought a bloated ass version of Marquez, not the muscular fast and strong version Pac fought?
You flom0s are gross, why do you keep defending a cherry picker?
So your praising Pac for fighting Juan under the same weights Floyd did ?
Floyd was lighter than what Manny was !
JMM was slower in his last fight than he has ever been and what do you think Floyd would do to a slower JMM ? why dont you call for a rematch lol , its a fact Juan WANTS NONE OF FLOYD lol .
Live with it kid , Manny got stiffened and Floyd schooled the guy that did it at the same weight while Floyd was lighter than Manny , and after 2 yrs out while JMM was coming of 2 big name stoppages and was the current No 2 P4P in the world , and your trying to rubbish Floyd , the sour grape losers are pathetic .
What would you be saying if after Guerrero Floyd fights Alvarez ? Or Guerrero , Alvarez , Martinez ? In that order . And pacquiao fights lets say Bradley Marquez Rios ?
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. "As long as he fights this guy, I dont care who he fights now." This is the Floyd fan mentality.
Bro, you ain't doing sh-t for Pacquiao with this thread. This is sad man.
See, this is the difference between you and I. I'm a fan of the sport, not just of a fighter. I'll call it like I see it. My favorite fighter is Marquez and then Chad Dawson. So I don't even know why you assume Manny is my dude. Even if he was, Id tell it straight up. If my favorite fighter is being a *****, I'm going to call him a *****.
Floyd and Manny are both 147lb fighters so what I want to know is are you also pushing for Manny to fight Sergio or only Floyd?
Ive said numerous times that the Pacquiao camp was afraid of Martinez. Look up my thread history. But at least Pacuqiao took on a challenge
a liar says, "at least I don't steal"...then the thief says "well at least I don't kill"...then the killer says, "well at least I don't rape women"...then the rapist says, "well at least I don't rape children"...c'mon homie thats how we living now?...thats how we convince ourselves we're not living foul? :lol1:
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