Juan Manual Marquez goes through Chavez snr resume without losing one fight...

Prime Marquez is not as strong as a prime Camacho or Rosario. I don't know about Ramirez. Camacho and Rosario had better chins than Marquez. Camacho is also a better boxer than Marquez. Don't know about Rosario or Ramirez. Y'all are sleeping on Macho, which baffles me. Watch more fights. No way Marquez beats him IME. Just saying. I'm a big fan of both. Two of my favorites. I think he ment the Macho that fought Chavez in 92. A prime Camacho would pick JMM apart. A Camacho of 83-85 would easily beat JMM.

Marquez is in for a real rough go 135 and above. I think he'd beat Rosario, Camacho and Ramirez due to him being stronger than all of them and the better boxer. Above that he's fcking with Prime Delahoya, Whitaker, Taylor and Tszyu. I would tag him as big underdogs against Whitaker and Oscar since I think Whitaker would just box better than he would and Oscar would KO him at 135 and above. Taylor and Tszyu are very interesting fights for me, as Marquez has a better offense to defense style than Taylor, whereas Taylor is mainly offense and may not be as physically strong, and Tszyu has a big right hand and solid fundamentals. I see Tszyu/Marquez playing out like Marquez/Barrera but with Marquez barely getting the decision and being dropped in the same fashion as Barrera got him. Prime Marquez is not as strong as a prime Camacho or Rosario. I don't know about Ramirez. Camacho and Rosario had better chins than Marquez. Camacho is also a better boxer than Marquez. Don't know about Rosario or Ramirez. Y'all are sleeping on Macho, which baffles me. Watch more fights. No way Marquez beats him IME. Just saying. I'm a big fan of both. Two of my favorites.

A prime DLH..stops JMM Whitaker wins lopsided decesion Taylor thats a toss up but would of been a great fight Rosario..another great fight he hit hard but JMM would probably edge out a dec. Tzyu..toss up another hard banger..his straight right was lethal -- Bottom line Chavez was better than JMM..and JMM -vs- Chavez..Chavez wins..wears him out..

Please stop posting nonsense............ You started watching boxing 4 years ago and shouldn't even be allowed to say the word CHAVEZ. care to explain Pedro?

Please stop posting nonsense............ You started watching boxing 4 years ago and shouldn't even be allowed to say the word CHAVEZ.

Chavez should got an L after getting a gift from Pernell.

Whitaker would take Marquez to school, no offense to Marquez. He just doesn't do well having to lead against a superior fighter, see Floyd-JMM. Oscar would be a close fight, as would Taylor. I got Marquez beating Tszyu though.

I would be annoyed by this thread if I weren't laughing so hard at it. Good thread. for the humor.

According to nacho Beristain Chavez is the best Mexican boxer of all time. http://masmedio.com/nota/35045 nacho dont know nothin about boxing

i don't know why so many feel marquez will lose to whitaker. whitaker got robbed against chavez so why wouldnt/can't he get robbed against marquez

Like people have said; Kostya Tszyu wouldn't work out too well for JMM. Watch the Katsidis fight and try to picture Tszyu in that scenario... De La Hoya is also a big problem. Whitaker, Taylor, ect. People need to understand something about JMM. He only has one legitimate loss on his record you can't argue with against Floyd - a guy he never should have been in the ring with in the first place. Juan Manuel Marquez is one of the best fighters ever. Real talk.

According to nacho Beristain Chavez is the best Mexican boxer of all time. http://masmedio.com/nota/35045

Taylor was way to agressive and was exactly what Marquez always wanted in an opponent. Whitiker or De la Hoya at welter would have beat marquez they were just way to big.

Yea that stops soon as he meets Whitaker ... Maybe Taylor

Rosario stops JMM, So does fishnets. Believe me I wouldn't like it but it does happen. He is just too small and these guys hit way too hard, and Marquez is hitable. He has a hard time with the Roger Mayweather. Floyd's style gave Marquez fits and Roger more or less fought the same. However, not quite the same level but still rangy enough to give marquez trouble. A Prime Ramirez is a toss up but Marquez in a world of danger. Guy is highly underrated. When he lost to boom boom he couldn't sit down on his punches because the mat was a gym mat and so he was slipping and sliding all over the place. Meanwhile Mancini wore sneakers which helped him out. Taylor beats Marquez by Decisive decision. Just too big for Marquez and way way too fast. Arguably some of the fastest hands ever. I know, I know Marquez looks like a super hero after he destroyed pacman, however, people forget one very important thing: JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ IS A 126 POUND FIGHTER. Yes does he have the skills to beat these guys if they were the same size, of course Marquez is of the very elite. Doesn't change the fact he is small guy though. He does destroy haugen though. He outboxes Tszyu and maybe camacho. P.S. he has a life and death war with Azabache Martinez.

Any excuses for Arnulfo Bravo? Any actual logic or are you drunk on the hatoraide?

Am I the only one that thinks thread starter meant Chavez's fights in his prime and not the later fights especially DLH and kostya? I would think he meant that also but he clearly mentions both Tszyu and Oscar by name in the first post.

Since we are on a fantasy ride, have you seen FMJ vs. Castillo? JCC 10x greater than Castillo JMM would lose to a DLH that fought JCC JMM would lose to a Whitaker JMM is 50/50 against Camacho that fought JCC, JMM would lose to a prime Camacho. Floyd had a broken hand. if Castillo had some kind of master strategy and style to beat mayweather he could have done it the second time.

Am I the only one that thinks thread starter meant Chavez's fights in his prime and not the later fights especially DLH and kostya? Anyways its not really a fair comparison since JMM started at 126. He dont have much chance against DLH, not against Whitaker either if he got schooled by PBF he will get schooled by whitaker. Kostya though I dont know, I think he has a decent chance. Is kostya really any better than pac at 140?

chavez was not good at all when he got in it with a real boxer,they had to rob sweet pea cause the wbc are a bunch of racist snakes and theyknow a brawler cant beat a boxer yeah fa sho homie! I got stax on deck! bout to go cash diz $100 welfare check