I still see a lot of posters not giving JMM due respect and talking about luck. What do you think people would be saying if instead Pacquiao had knocked Marquez out cold?
I think its the other way around. I could careless about criticism. But like I said why would Floyd say that if PAC kos Marquez, When Marquez fought PAC first. Would ost matter? Angel Heredia himself said he supplied Olympic athletes with undected peds. I don't wanna go to deep into that because it would require intensive typing. Do your own research. I understand the hard work and dedication that boxers have to endure during training and I'm not implying that Marquez was on peds but let me say this again if associate yourself with a famous peds supplier who supplied peds to Olympic gold medalist, expect to be accused. As long as Marquez works with Heredia there will alway be a stigma surrounding him. I'm done you win.If you go back to the "leftover" post, I implied Floyd might say that to discredit Pacquiao's win over JMM (as he did Pac's win over Hatton) to justify his refusal to fight Pac. Yes Pac fought Marquez first but I already explained how Floyd would reason he beat JMM "before" Pacquiao (since he thinks JMM won fights 1-3. Do your own research.) Edit: Don't forget the premise is what Floyd might say (in a fictional parallel universe) and that we're using Floyd logic here. Look, I even did a little research for you: http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-i-beat-them-pacquiao-takes-my-leftovers--43521 . Note how much importance Floyd gives to beating fighters first. You get it now?
"... if associate yourself with a famous peds supplier who supplied peds to Olympic gold medalist, expect to be accused."
If Marquez is suspect by association to Heredia, then so is Alex Ariza because Ariza says he and Heredia are friends.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2012/11/27/juan-manuel-marquez-denies-using-illegal-drugs/1729725/
Smh, you're really dense if you didn't catch that the leftovers comment was a criticism of Floyd. As far as your steroids comment, I invite you to use Team Pacquiao's standard; "let the commission do their job." Btw, Marquez was for OST as long as Pac did it too, and Team Pac didn't accept. What do you think of that?
I think its the other way around. I could careless about criticism. But like I said why would Floyd say that if PAC kos Marquez, When Marquez fought PAC first. Would ost matter? Angel Heredia himself said he supplied Olympic athletes with undected peds. I don't wanna go to deep into that because it would require intensive typing. Do your own research. I understand the hard work and dedication that boxers have to endure during training and I'm not implying that Marquez was on peds but let me say this again if associate yourself with a famous peds supplier who supplied peds to Olympic gold medalist, expect to be accused. As long as Marquez works with Heredia there will alway be a stigma surrounding him. I'm done you win.
Whaaa! Butthurt? Yeah, it's just for fun, but your dismissing the fact that Floyd didn't weigh at the contracted catchweight of 144 which is an advantage on his side. Btw the steroids accusations against Marquez was way before the 4th fight with PAC was even announced.Smh, you're really dense if you didn't catch that the leftovers comment was a criticism of Floyd. As far as your steroids comment, I invite you to use Team Pacquiao's standard; "let the commission do their job." Btw, Marquez was for OST as long as Pac did it too, and Team Pac didn't accept. What do you think of that?
Yes but if Pac had KOed him it would have been Pac's first convincing win over JMM in the eyes of many, including May. So May would have had the convincing win first. Note that May has also said JMM won the first three fights. You're really taking this to heart though, don't forget this thread is not reality and meant for fun.
Whaaa! Butthurt? Yeah, it's just for fun, but your dismissing the fact that Floyd didn't weigh at the contracted catchweight of 144 which is an advantage on his side. Btw the steroids accusations against Marquez was way before the 4th fight with PAC was even announced.
The google search volumes have Mayweather as being exponentially more famous than Donaire or Viloria in Philippines (all Americans btw)...so basically 4 of the 5 most famous fighters in Philippines are American. Mayweather, Ali, Donaire, and Viloria :lol1:
You know majority of the population in the Philippines still don't have computers right, and what's this got to do with Americans? Donaire has never raised an American flag in his fights, viloria yes but not donaire. Your right about 1 thing though Ali is well known there more famous than Mayweather, and so is Frazier.
The google search volumes have Mayweather as being exponentially more famous than Donaire or Viloria in Philippines (all Americans btw)...so basically 4 of the 5 most famous fighters in Philippines are American. Mayweather, Ali, Donaire, and Viloria :lol1:[/. You know majority of the population in the Philippines still don't have computers right, and what's this got to do with Americans? Donaire has never raised an American flag in his fights, viloria yes but not donaire. Your right about 1 thing though Ali is well known there more famous than Mayweather, and so is Frazier.
Whew. I've been stationed away from home, and after reading the other threads I actually thought Pac lost. I also saw those photoshops of him being koed. Glad that Pac actually got the KO6.
It would have been fight of the year, knock out of the year, Pac would have been fighter of the year, and Roach trainer of the year.
But JMM wins and all of a sudden it's not worthy of those honors due to JMM's strength coach, Which happens to be Pac's strength coach's professor, being "suspect.":nonono:This. ......
It would have been fight of the year, knock out of the year, Pac would have been fighter of the year, and Roach trainer of the year.
But JMM wins and all of a sudden it's not worthy of those honors due to JMM's strength coach, Which happens to be Pac's strength coach's professor, being "suspect.":nonono:
I'll try my best. " PACQUIAO BEATS MARQUEZ FOR A 4TH TIME ! HOPEFULLY FLOYDIE COMES OUT OF HIDING NOW. HE WON'T BECAUSE HE'S TOO SCARED. HE WILL PROBABLY GET LOCKED UP AGAIN SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE TRUE P4P KING ! " ... Did I get it ?The point was to give JMM his due respect, but if that's how you want to take it then that's good too.
I'll try my best. " PACQUIAO BEATS MARQUEZ FOR A 4TH TIME ! HOPEFULLY FLOYDIE COMES OUT OF HIDING NOW. HE WON'T BECAUSE HE'S TOO SCARED. HE WILL PROBABLY GET LOCKED UP AGAIN SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE TRUE P4P KING ! " ... Did I get it ?
Well, if Pacquiao knocked out Marquez in that manner, the call for a Mayweather showdown would gain a lot of momentum again. However, Marquez knocked him out. This is what makes boxing such a great sport, its unpredictable nature. Any fight can end with just one punch. I think Marquez deserves it, since he should be more talked about with casual fans for being such a great fighter.
No Floyd is not the second most popular in Philippines, Donaire and Viloria is next after PAC. Dang people just pull **** out of their asses.The google search volumes have Mayweather as being exponentially more famous than Donaire or Viloria in Philippines (all Americans btw)...so basically 4 of the 5 most famous fighters in Philippines are American. Mayweather, Ali, Donaire, and Viloria :lol1:
Marquez didn't get lucky, he landed a perfect punch
had Pac done the same thing, it's equivalent
both guys tore into each other and each scored a KD
can't say either of them getting a KO in a war is luck
You know PAC fought Marquez first right, now depending on wether you have Marquez beating PAC ( I thought PAC won the first two) it's still a win. But like I said you can never satisfy boxing fans. They'll always be **** takers.Yes but if Pac had KOed him it would have been Pac's first convincing win over JMM in the eyes of many, including May. So May would have had the convincing win first. Note that May has also said JMM won the first three fights. You're really taking this to heart though, don't forget this thread is not reality and meant for fun.
Thankfully God is merciful and didn't allow that to happen. Look at what the Pac legions are reduced to, 100% Floyd hate 100% of the time. At least before Pac got ktfo it was like 75% Floyd hate 25% Manny praise. Floyd is the 2nd most famous boxer in the history of Philippines.
Pacfart numbers would have reached post-ODLH/Hatton levels, this place would have been unbearable for a good 2-3 weeks with just a massive flood of tards.
No Floyd is not the second most popular in Philippines, Donaire and Viloria is next after PAC. Dang people just pull **** out of their asses.
Take it easy and pay attention to what you read. I said Floyd would be the one talking about leftovers, because that's what Floyd called Hatton after Pac KOed Hatton in 2. And Floyd is the one who likes to say Pac rides off his fame. You should have picked up on that by now. How long have you been watching boxing? Edit: I referred to Mayweather as "May", so that might have been confusing. I shorten it just like I do with "Pac" for Pacquiao. That shouldn't be hard to figure out though, should it? Especially if you've been watching boxing a while and know what people are referring to.
You know PAC fought Marquez first right, now depending on wether you have Marquez beating PAC ( I thought PAC won the first two) it's still a win. But like I said you can never satisfy boxing fans. They'll always be **** takers.
Thankfully God is merciful and didn't allow that to happen. Look at what the Pac legions are reduced to, 100% Floyd hate 100% of the time. At least before Pac got ktfo it was like 75% Floyd hate 25% Manny praise. Floyd is the 2nd most famous boxer in the history of Philippines.
Pacfart numbers would have reached post-ODLH/Hatton levels, this place would have been unbearable for a good 2-3 weeks with just a massive flood of tards.
Spoon23, puga, pacfan, adop2, tlarry, pullcounter, junior gong, guevara, and hugh grant would have led a manny birther fringe fanbase takeover of NSB. The floyd/manny fight thread would be up to 9,000 posts. But the best would be the threads where those fools discuss on how manny would beat SRR, Henry ARmstrong and SRL in the same year.