Manny Pacquiao dropped to Number 7 on ESPN P4P list!!

Oh the bitterness :lol1: :lol1: I agree with this :boxing:

I think Fabrice joined NSB after seeing this just to give daggum some red k. Just downright embarrassing. The lengths people go to.

:lol1: :lol1: Tell me...name the fighters Tiozzo had beaten that would make him a pound for pounder? You desperate f*ck :lol1: I think Fabrice joined NSB after seeing this just to give daggum some red k.

Looks about right.

Donaire is Knocking out shot fighters while having a huge size advantage in the division didn't look good against Mathebula, Vazquez Jr or Narvaez did he? huge advantage and shot fighters? its obvious you skip the other boxer that Donaire ko this year... the number in his division... Size? His Last opponents are heavier/bigger than him... we dont measure the division by height, just FYI. lol!

Donaire => 4 fights in 1 year! Floyd => 4 fights in 5 years! Donaire knocking out his opponents is slipping on P4P while the other is sucker punching and cheating his opponents and still climbing high in P4P ranking??? wtf? lol Do you think Donaire beats Mayweather in a fight? ok dumb, so you think Floyd can beat Wlad or Ward? lol!

Manny was barely top 5 before his last fight He really hasn't fought a decent opponent since Cotto besides Marquez

change what topic? he had no business in the top 10 at that point in his career. hernandez wasn't on the list. an early stoppage over fringe contender manfredy certainly doesn't warrant inclusion on the list. he was put on based on hype. the story of his career. we see the same thing happening with broner. other guys have to earn their accolades but these guys are rewarded based on hype. they don't even have to do much. beating hernandez, manfredy, and those bums i mention gets him to #2? brian viloria isn't even on the p4p list at all and his resume is 5 times better than that and 5 times better than broners, but he's small and doesn't fight on us television. not on the list! same reason pac was not on the list till he got on us television. but people like you pretend like floyd was better simply because he was in the public sphere more. best god damn post in the entire thread right here.

you got him confused with floyd. In years ...5 years - 4 fights! JMM made him move up two divisions and cheated him on weight!:WORD: Grandpa Mosley...Can barely beat b class fighters! Past Prime!:WORD: Ortiz... Sucker Punched for the win! Woo Woo Woo! :WORD: Cotto...Slow at 154 and waaay past his prime. (busted Floyd up) But still a dead horse! :WORD: i guess wins like these get you P4P great! heheheheheee! so jmm didnt ask to come to WW??????????? just a question

Yeah, I mean, he did get knocked out. It's tough, though. All these dudes are on their way out, so we can't expect too much from them at this point. What can I say?

Manny 7 and Wlad 5 smh. Wlad that high is a joke, someone that uses illegal tactics constantly shouldn't be anywhere near a P4P list.

hernandez's only notable win was over 40 year old nelson, yet you think he's great. tiozzo beats 40 year old mccallum and you go off about how faded mcallum is and how its a sh-it win. no credibility. You think Fabrice Tiozzo was a pound for pounder because he beat a washed up, tit-having Mike McCallum and you want to talk about credibility? STFU. I know you're the comedian on this board but I didn't realize you're a clown even when serious. Fabrice Tiozzo was a pound for pounder. :lol1:

But...but...but...rankings don't matter. McCallum is easily better than Hernandez, even though Hernandez was ranked about 50 spots ahead of him, right? Fabrice Tiozzo...pound for pounder. What a f*cking clown you are. hernandez's only notable win was over 40 year old nelson, yet you think he's great. tiozzo beats 40 year old mccallum and you go off about how faded mcallum is and how its a sh-it win. no credibility.

Guys, mythical P4P rating is created hype. See, once the public see a fighter for the first time they need to do some really funny dumb stuff. Adrian Broner calls out for his dad to come on stage and brush his hair for example. I personally don't think Broner is P4P material yet. He is good though. His hype train is moving along steadily though, because people wanna see if he is gonna have his dad come up and comb his hair somemore. Floyd fans/haters are in a weird position. A lot of people tune into Floyd's fight only to see him lose .... once he loses .... PPV viewership numbers are gonna be cut in half. Floyd's PPV's doing a Million buys is over the minute he loses. Manny Pacquiao on the other hand, i've noticed, has more genuine fans. Its weird, if Floyd got KO'd by Canelo his next PPV is gonna fail miserably. Manny's next PPV is strangely gonna do better than the last one. Weird difference between the 2 fan bases.

please show me that floyd had beaten the #1 and #2 in separate divisions in 1998. your argument is floyd was better because he was more popular and tiozzo didn't deserve to be p4p because he was unknown and from france? i didn't know being a light heavy champ and moving to cruiser to beat the #1 guy was easy. lots of light heavies do that all the time. But...but...but...rankings don't matter. McCallum is easily better than Hernandez, even though Hernandez was ranked about 50 spots ahead of him, right? Fabrice Tiozzo...pound for pounder. What a f*cking clown you are.

Not even AB Promotions in France had Fabrice Tiozzo as a pound for pounder. Or even top 50. Yet your argument has boiled down to this: Fabrice Tiozzo was a pound for pounder. :lol1: :lol1: please show me that floyd had beaten the #1 and #2 in separate divisions in 1998. your argument is floyd was better because he was more popular and tiozzo didn't deserve to be p4p because he was unknown and from france? i didn't know being a light heavy champ and moving to cruiser to beat the #1 guy was easy. lots of light heavies do that all the time.

Manny 7 and Wlad 5 smh.

Those are some decent p4p rankings IMO. However I don't think Pac should be in the top ten coming off two losses. He got robbed against Bradley, but other fighters don't keep their ranking when they get robbed.

yeah mcallum was old but he was still champ and just beat harding. hernandez only notable win was over 40 year old nelson and he retired from injuries after the floyd fight. don't see how he's so great, certainly not in mccallum's class. tiozzo beat the #2 guy at light heavy and the #1 guy at cruiser. can you imagine if someone did that today? imagine if someone beat hopkins then moved up to beat hernandez. they wouldn't be p4p? you are the deluded one. Not even AB Promotions in France had Fabrice Tiozzo as a pound for pounder. Or even top 50. Yet your argument has boiled down to this: Fabrice Tiozzo was a pound for pounder. :lol1: :lol1:

Do you realize how deluded you've become? You are actually campaigning that FABRICE TIOZZO should have been a pound for pounder in 1998. Were you following the sport at all then? Because you sound dumb as sh*t right now :lol1: :lol1:. And no, decisioning a FADED Mike McCallum isn't quite the same as stopping a Genaro Hernandez who was ranked #17 in the Ring end of Year pound for list in 1998. Get a f*cking grip. yeah mcallum was old but he was still champ and just beat harding. hernandez only notable win was over 40 year old nelson and he retired from injuries after the floyd fight. don't see how he's so great, certainly not in mccallum's class. tiozzo beat the #2 guy at light heavy and the #1 guy at cruiser. can you imagine if someone did that today? imagine if someone beat hopkins then moved up to beat hernandez. they wouldn't be p4p? you are the deluded one.