How did Marquez bulk up?**BANNED WE DONT NEED DUPLICATE TOPICS**

yes its possible for him to bulk up without the use of peds in 4 months with proper nutrition and training. marquez never had problems timing pacman with good counters and feints. he just exposed pacmans wrecklessness with a hard shot that even himself couldnt believe. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

obviously natural despite widespread PED usage in all other sports

Its not hard to do, its not rocket science. Proper training and nutrition will easily get you there.

i heard about this shit a while ago called diet and training hard, or something like that. maybe marquez did that? not too sure, it seems to be a mystery that very few have information on... haha....exactly :dance:

He was only 143lbs. I've said it before, having low bodyfat can give an impression a guy is a lot bigger than they are. Almost an illusion. I've cut before, been 15-20 or so lbs less and had people asking what I was on, saying I actually looked bigger etc I know, I first started P90X a few years ago and had lost like 6 or 7 pounds and this guy I knew was asking me if I was on roids because I looked a lot bigger. I just laughed it off and told him that I had actually went down 2 pant sizes, he swore I was on some type of stuff but I was like man, protein powder once a day after a workout and that's about it.

The irony of conspiracy theorist on boxing scene is amazing. Shamless guys. When Pacman gains weight & ko's guys that have been bigger than him his entire career, it's all natural. But when Marquez bulks up & ko's a fighter than is really his size, questions abound.

i heard about this shit a while ago called diet and training hard, or something like that. maybe marquez did that? not too sure, it seems to be a mystery that very few have information on...

I saw just some brief snippets of him incorporating weights. Was there anything more extensive on the weight training regiment he used? As Heredia stated in the 24/7, the key to remember is that muscle is denser than fat is. A pound weighs a pound regardless of whether it's water, fat, or muscle. The only thing that differs is the volume of space that it occupies. So JMM added muscle while burning fat which allowed him to be at the weight he needed to be at without having the excess fat which he had used to gain weight in the past. Against Floyd, JMM looked bloated and sluggish because he simply gained fat and worked a little bit on strength training. Against Pac, he worked heavily on conditioning and developing his fast twitch muscles (ones used for explosiveness like a sprinter instead of the slow twitch ones like a marathon runner). Look into HIIT routines and Tabata routines, they help lean you out while allowing you to develop your cardiovascular threshold and explosive muscles. It takes a while to get there, hence the 4 months of training he did with Heredia prior to the fight. You don't need steroids to get in that kind of shape, just hard work and knowledge.

with the help from a S&C coach(weight training) that has valuable knowledge and experience with PED's(nutrition)

New strength and conditioning coach. lol

el jugo. :dance:

I saw just some brief snippets of him incorporating weights. Was there anything more extensive on the weight training regiment he used? Yea bro, he trained for 1min37sec juat like in 24/7...amazing:pat:

He was only 143lbs. I've said it before, having low bodyfat can give an impression a guy is a lot bigger than they are. Almost an illusion. I've cut before, been 15-20 or so lbs less and had people asking what I was on, saying I actually looked bigger etc

Had he used weights before? I know a lot of the old school guys didn't like weights or only real light weights. There was one snippet where he was grinding out military presses for this last training. His shoulders did look massive for his size, this time around. He definitely looked liked he packed on some mass compared to previous fights.

A good weight program can make you look like that. He trained for power in short bursts so he used heavy weights and low reps. Manny's strength coach actually explained it really well. Also, if you train in a new way after a lifetime of doing something different your body is going to change. I get the suspision some people have, but as an individual who is on a weight program myself I can tell you that he didn't achieve anything anyone with good genes and hard work couldnt achieve.

In the 2nd fight with Manny he was 141 on fight night so years later he was 6 pounds heavier http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9966/pacmarquezii.jpg

He didnt bulk up he only came in at 143 and was 147 on fight night..he just lost more fat.people act like the man came in at middleweight for crying out loud