I feel there is big myth regarding Danny Garcia.
People keep saying Khan was whooping him, lucky punch etc
I gave Khan the first two rounds until Garcia switched it up and showed some versatility - Something I haven't really seen from Amir in all 30+ of his pro outings. If you watch the third round again, you will notice how good and how underrated Danny Garcia's defense is. Watch the third round, Khan can barely put a glove on the kid.
People say he only has a left hook. Watch the third round, he rips the sh1t out of Khan & he isn't throwing aimlessly like Amir does. IMO the bodyshots played a big factor in breaking Khan down.
Too say this kid is one dimensional, limited or has bad defense is crazy talk.
He loosened up and broke Amir down. If they fight again, same result.
They need to keep Khan in with soft touches, Garcia will end his career & I genuinely believe Judah is stylistically a harder fight for Garcia than Amir.
That is not a fighter with a bad defense & I don't agree Khan was winning that round before the knockdown.
He is a underrated & very subtle.
Khan was dominating in the first fight??That's a laughable suggestion..From you as well as the commentators last night...Khan was winning on my scorecard when the punch in the 3rd landed,but I was about to give Danny that 3rd rd before the kd...Danny had gotten Khan's timing and was nailing him with some solid shots..Enough to were I felt he won the 3rd before the kd..So dominating is strong a word,winning yes,dominating no...
This is what I posted...
I feel there is big myth regarding Danny Garcia.
People keep saying Khan was whooping him, lucky punch etc
I gave Khan the first two rounds until Garcia switched it up and showed some versatility - Something I haven't really seen from Amir in all 30+ of his pro outings. If you watch the third round again, you will notice how good and how underrated Danny Garcia's defense is. Watch the third round, Khan can barely put a glove on the kid.
People say he only has a left hook. Watch the third round, he rips the sh1t out of Khan & he isn't throwing aimlessly like Amir does. IMO the bodyshots played a big factor in breaking Khan down.
Too say this kid is one dimensional, limited or has bad defense is crazy talk.
He loosened up and broke Amir down. If they fight again, same result.
They need to keep Khan in with soft touches, Garcia will end his career & I genuinely believe Judah is stylistically a harder fight for Garcia than Amir.
That is not a fighter with a bad defense & I don't agree Khan was winning that round before the knockdown.
He is a underrated & very subtle.
I just posted something about this in the Khan vs Garcia thread...Very good thread bro,and I completely agree...
Everytime I watch Judah step up I prepare for the worst.
Appearing to fake injuries, boxing brilliantly for 4-6 then tiring/throwing it away, starting brawls etc etc
Gosh I have no confidence in that guy, its not his ability, its his mentality.
The guy is a nutjob.
Zab always folds at world level, maybe he is suckering me in but I am just not sure Judah can be taken for granted.
Hes still fast, hes a southpaw, good jab, good defense, footwork etc etc. I feel Garcia is going to have a real hard time landing that left hook not that I think that is the only punch he has in his arsenal.
Man I feel he can perhaps still beat Garcia but I just haven't got the confidence in going with it as I know when he has a shot to really make a statement he always manages to fold like a cheap deckchair.
He will near enough always beat good fighters but when it comes to that bordering world class, without fail, he'll somehow manage to throw it away. Bound to be controversy in this one with Judah starting a brawl or something lol
Shame really as he was/is damn talented. Bit of a mental midget I guess.
I wanted Morales to win in the 2nd fight with Garcia. I thought Morale's chin will take him to the 12th. I had my hopes up then BAM, fight is over.
Morales was in there the 2nd time just for a check. But still Garcia did what was expected. Im just not to high on the kid, but you cant doubt what he has done to this point.
Garcia did not break Kahn down wtf lol. He just landed one punch that changed everything. Props to Garciafor hanging in... that fight was a shutout before hand...
Judah has no chin. Garcia will end this before the third round.
Im not too sure about this one. It will be harder for Danny to land the left hook since Zab is left handed. I think Zab has a lgit chance if he stays smart!
I could see that too. But Zab has a lot more left than people are givin him I think. We'll see if Garcia pulls it off sky's the limit for him
I wanted Morales to win in the 2nd fight with Garcia. I thought Morale's chin will take him to the 12th. I had my hopes up then BAM, fight is over.
Judah has no chin. Garcia will end this before the third round.
I could see that too. But Zab has a lot more left than people are givin him I think. We'll see if Garcia pulls it off sky's the limit for him
No.
Posters from Philly need to STFU about Garcia, all of them bang on about he's underrated and a great fighter etc
your almost as bad as me with british fighters
Ok you make a valid point, Canelo may be slighter better than Garcia in terms of pure boxing skills, but just how much better is he?!? That's comparing decent to fairly decent. He's a ****ing champion, time to defend the belt against a top 10 contender @ 154. I'm not a big Garcia fan, but I respect what he's accomplished so far in his young career, something that you won't do. He's got some good names under his resume no padded record and is fighting guys in HIS weight class. Yes he's limited at what he does, he's not the fastest, not the strongest, but he's willing to fight and has heart. Either way, I know I won't change your mind but I would like to honestly know what is it that you dislike about him so much? That he's KO'd 1 and beat another one of your lads or something?
Yes Garcia was gettin handled, yes Amir was dominating. Danny caught lightning in a bottle and Ko'd Khan. He gotta worry about Zab before thinkin about Khan. Yes Zab's hand speed regardless of age will give Garcia trouble.
Judah has no chin. Garcia will end this before the third round.
Yes Garcia was gettin handled, yes Amir was dominating. Danny caught lightning in a bottle and Ko'd Khan. He gotta worry about Zab before thinkin about Khan. Yes Zab's hand speed regardless of age will give Garcia trouble.
Maidana has underrated footspeed, can fight inside and is devastating against opponents who will indulge him in a fight.
Him against garcia is not a foregone conclusion at all imo
I agree with your points above, I actually feel Ashley Theophane exposed Garcia for not being great at range. I felt that fight could of gone either way actually & IMO Maidana's footwork has improved under Garcia. I don't think hes as flat footed as he was before and he can certainly cut a ring off better. Before I felt he just plodded forward following guys.
He has improved but I still see a very limited guy and tbh I don't think he has looked in very good shape in his last two fights.
Everytime I see him I am convinced if guys went to his body they'd stop him.
Tough, proud guy with a 'glass body' like a Mr Brian Magee.
I'd pick Matthysse over him and probably to stop him but I feel Lucas is the best 140lb fighter on the planet right about now. Maidana is garbage, I'd take Garcia over him in a heartbeat. People talk about Garcia having limitations, Maidana is severely limited and still living off beating a quitter 5 years ago whose never amounted to anything but a laughing stock.
I agree with you Dan. People on this board never cease to amaze me. They talk about Danny being limited, which I agree he is, but then turn around and praise a guy like Canelo. Canelo is much better than Danny in terms of physical attributes. He's faster, stronger, etc etc (i know he's in a higher weight class), but in terms of boxing skills, they're on the same page. The difference is people give Canelo a pass to "improve" and "get better" but not Danny.
Danny is in the same position many other boxers have been. Promotors are giving him time to expand and improve his game. He's marketable to a big audience so they're bringing him along slowly as other boxers are being brought up slowly. Main difference is Danny is defending his belt against someone who's rated in the top 10 JWW's. He's got a decent resume if you ask me, THEOPHANE, Campbell, Holt, Morales, and Khan. I can appreciate him not having a padded record and not beating on tomato cans and fighters 2 weight classes below him, but smoke and mirrors shows are great and people are easily impressed by that kind of thing.
My point isn't Canelo in this rant but it's the fact that "fans" give passes to some boxers but not to others. I guess it depends on who you like though, anyone else just sucks right?
Garcia is too easy to figure out, can you imagine what someone like Bradley would do to him? Take Khan out of the equation and look at Garcia on his own and the rest would come to you.
Whilst Khan was not dominating Garcia in a way some people will have you believe, Khan definitely was on top in the first two rounds and looked a class above Garcia even though Garcia was landing with some of those attempted hooks. Garcia was swinging wildy with those same left hooks missing a few and landing a few. You could see a couple of times he came to within inches of them landing clean and i remember thinking at the time if one of those landed it could be good night. Not because Khan had a glass chin but because of the ferociousness of the swings. They would have been a problem for anybody had they landed. When they missed they looked bad and i think that's what slightly plays a part in peoples minds when they underrate Garcia's boxing ability but if they land your gonna be seeing stars.
Now a boxer with an iota of ring iq would have picked up on Garcia's wild swings and would have switched up and at the very least noticed what Garcia was trying to do. Wether they could have prevented them hooks from landing or not is a whole nother story. Khan carried on pittypatting away without even acknowledging how close those earlier left hooks came to landing on his jaw. When one did land cleanly we all know what happened.
I don't understand why Garcia is so underrated. It's as if people go out of their way to underrate him. I too think Garcia would beat Khan again in a rematch but fair play to Khan for wanting the rematch so badly even when it looks like (to me anyway)that Garcia's specialities are the perfect counter for Khan's flaws. I'd certainly look forward to a rematch between the two. The first was a exciting fight even if it was a bit short so i'd look forward to a second.
Danny Garcia's biggest win is a lucky shot against Amir Khan. When he fights someone like Lucas Matthysse or Marcos Maidana, or rematches Khan, then we'll find out just how good he really is. I don't think you guys will like the results.
I'd pick Matthysse over him and probably to stop him but I feel Lucas is the best 140lb fighter on the planet right about now. Maidana is garbage, I'd take Garcia over him in a heartbeat. People talk about Garcia having limitations, Maidana is severely limited and still living off beating a quitter 5 years ago whose never amounted to anything but a laughing stock.
Danny Garcia landed a lucky punch, we all know it. Amir Khan has every advantage over this kid, no reason to believe anything other than a Khan boxing clinic in a rematch. Garcia and his racist/classless father can enjoy their 15 minutes while it lasts.
How many times can that kid land the same lucky punch? :Thinkingo