Is Deontay Wilder More Overrated than Canelo Alvarez?

He isn't even rated highly by any serious boxing fan so no. Canelo has fought Mayweather(L), Trout, Angulo, Rhodes, etc, much better competition and won. They are not even comparable. Wilder isn't rated yet by media and fans, sure he's lower 10 at HW but a weight class like that, a little buzz will get you in the top 10. But he's really not top 10, maybe with the eye test, what he's likely capable of doing, but not resume wise.

He's always just one punch away from victory. When you have that weapon in your arsenal at all times, it takes away a lot of pressure and stress. He has 12 whole rounds to land one clean shot. In this generation of heavies, there are no Oliver McCalls. When his opponents get in the ring with him, whether they admit it or not, they know they're vulnerable, so it makes them hesitate (Malik Scott) or makes them too desperate (Firtha). It's the same situation that happened when Mike Tyson was coming up the ranks in the 80s. Fear caused fighters to lose before they even stepped foot in the ring.

deontay wilder isnt even overrated. Canelo is.

Guillermo Rigo is one.:lol1: Rigo the most accomplished amateur boxer of all time? That Rigo?

Wilder at least is fighting HWs and he is not champ..canelo in the oher hand is beating small or small and old ppl being a champion...there is nobody more overrated than canelo in the sport right now.. Guillermo Rigo is one.:lol1:

there's a few recent threads saying wilder is the savior of the HW divsion which made me research and see what the hype was all about,. as it turns out, it's just hype, nothing more. valero on the other hand, was no hype, he faced legit opposition, unlike wilder who's faced cab drivers his entire career There's no real hype behind Wilder, yet. He probably won't even go for a title next year. HBO probably dials up the hype after a few more kos, but as of right now it's not even close. Canelo is #2 in his division having beaten nobody, and even popping up in some p4p lists lol.

I'm one of Wilder's biggest supporters on this website and I wasn't all that impressed with his performance. He's got a great physique - he's tall, he's got long arms and, yes, he's got awesome power. That said, he barely threw any punches and his jab was almost nonexistent. He seemed overconfident and didn't show a lot of head movement. true, wilder it seems, it just, well, wild. doesn't get me wrong, the guy is has the right stuff but lacks solid fundamentals, at this point of his career, he's running out of time

I haven't heard really anything about him until his KO this weekend tbh. I mean I knew who he was and had seen him fight before but I never heard people claiming he was some sort of unbeatable monster or anything. Why don't his accomplishments count for anything? I mean was Valero the most hyped farse in the sport when he was fighting? He had similar credentials knocking out all of his competition and I thought he was over rated but he kept KOing guys like he was meant to do it. I personally don't think he is that hyped up, HBO and Showtime don't showcase events with the guy as the headliner claiming he is the savior of the sport, just a few people on this site impressed by his one-punch KO performance this weekend. Not even in the same level as Canelo, who does mega numbers based on his participation in events alone, regardless of how he looks when he fights. there's a few recent threads saying wilder is the savior of the HW divsion which made me research and see what the hype was all about,. as it turns out, it's just hype, nothing more. valero on the other hand, was no hype, he faced legit opposition, unlike wilder who's faced cab drivers his entire career

I haven't heard really anything about him until his KO this weekend tbh. I mean I knew who he was and had seen him fight before but I never heard people claiming he was some sort of unbeatable monster or anything. Why don't his accomplishments count for anything? I mean was Valero the most hyped farse in the sport when he was fighting? He had similar credentials knocking out all of his competition and I thought he was over rated but he kept KOing guys like he was meant to do it. I personally don't think he is that hyped up, HBO and Showtime don't showcase events with the guy as the headliner claiming he is the savior of the sport, just a few people on this site impressed by his one-punch KO performance this weekend. Not even in the same level as Canelo, who does mega numbers based on his participation in events alone, regardless of how he looks when he fights.

I'm one of Wilder's biggest supporters on this website and I wasn't all that impressed with his performance. He's got a great physique - he's tall, he's got long arms and, yes, he's got awesome power. That said, he barely threw any punches and his jab was almost nonexistent. He seemed overconfident and didn't show a lot of head movement.

Another pretty idiotic thread.

Deontay Wilder would go Randall Bailey on Price...lose every damn round and still win the fight...mark it... Price is a serious power puncher in his own right. You don't go out and lose every round to price without going out on your back.

Deontay Wilder would go Randall Bailey on Price...lose every damn round and still win the fight...mark it...

:owned2: :killyou: :nana: How did I get "owned" when you can't even answer any of my points? You don't have to answer the long one you don't want to read which wasn't even directed at your post (though you are free to answer any points). You show your ignorance of boxing in your 'response' to the one which was directed at you. Now, go away fanboy. You bring nothing to the table and are quite worthless to 'discuss' boxing with.

Can't wait till bump this thread again late next year when the Wilder Band Wagon takes over United States Sporting front by STORM and Wilder become the most talked about American HW since Tyson. You are quite the fantasizer. That will never happen though. And besides, you won't be around here in a year.

Besides Cotto, Martinez, Mayweather, Trout and Lara. Who else is there for Alvarez to fight at 154? As far as Wilder goes. It was a good show for him, it started kind of slow but it looked like he had command and once he pressed the gas, price couldn't take it. I'm not saying he's overnight gold, relax. Though, I wouldn't mind seeing him fight again. I'd like to see if there's more to him.

I'm not reading all that shit. Learn to make your points more concisely. Fantasy: Tor Hamer would defeat Kelvin Price if they fought again. Reality: Kelvin Price defeated Tor Hamer when they were matched up H2H Kelvin Price is a superior boxer to Tor Hamer until proven otherwise. and... Wilder KO3 Price Go away fanboy.

Didn't Hamer get outboxed not too long ago by the guy Wilder just flattened with one punch? He did drop a split decision to him, but he would beat him if they fought again. Also triangle theories don't work.

He's hands down a top 6 win for Wlad based on his resume. And McCline's a shell you say? What the hell type of condition do you think Sconiers is in, seeing as though his pro career has spanned almost as long McCline's, and he's been knocked out 12 fucking times? Hard to evaluate Sconiers, since we never really get to see him, but he was still good enough to beat McCline, so he must not be as shot as McCline is, seeing how he never reached within a stone throw of McCline's height. He's probably still the journyman he always was. As such, comparing the McCline that fought Sconier to that which fought Wlad. is a non-sequitur. On paper, McCline might've been one of Wlad's better wins, but the man who fought Wlad on that day fought scared as hell. I would rate a number of Wlad's opponents higher, including Thompsan, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov, Haye, Peter, and Brock. There's 6. I could see an argument for replacing one of the above guys with McCline as well, except that I think that these were all better fighters who would beat McCline. That gets into triangle theorizing, which isn't what I'm going for. But if you want to argue on the basis of who was a tougher fight, the fact is that McCline didn't present much of anything at all. You might even put Wach ahead, or maybe they are about the same. This is very debatable though, and I can't say I dispute your placement of McCline as a top 6 win, either. But, I stand by my comment that the Sconier comparison was sort of irrelevant given McCline's track record. For the record, I'd still like to see Wilder succeed. I just am tired of the way he's being moved, and have taken up being very critical; moreover, I see a lot of flaws and I will call them out. The two things are related. I think that the people behind him know he is flawed, and this gives more fodder to the criticism. I had hope for Wilder once, but my hope has faded. I'll still watch him, but I won't anticipate his rising to the top anymore, in large part based on what I see when he is in the ring. A big right hand against no hopers doesn't impress me, especially when he can't even abide by boxing fundamentals like keeping his hands up or working off the jab, and his footwork is sloppy (although it has improved).

Are you telling me Wilder is NOT the top American heavyweight prospect? Name me three American heavyweight PROSPECTS who are ahead of him. Bryant Jennings, Tor Hamer, and I would say Mitchell is still ahead of him as well. Jonathon Banks, if you want to consider him a prospect, is clearly well above. Jennings and Hamer are better prospects because they have more boxing ability and thus more potential. Miitchell has already achieved enough to be considered a considerable step above Wilder. He may have already peaked. But we don't know whether Wilder will reach his peak or not. Wilder is certainly a boxing prospect, however. I'd prefer to go with Jennings and Hamer alone, and to say that I think they have more potential based on their tighter boxing game, which I value more than Wilder's (and Mitchell's for that matter) athleticism.