Why would JMM hire a well known dope dealer ?

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What does Heredia know about Boxing? NOTHING He has even advertised his Doping services in EUROPE, GERMANY even did a Documentary on it and BRAGGED that his Former Clients were Disgraced MARION Jones, Tim Montgomery and Justin Gatlin. FACT IS, HEREDIA was Banned from Practising in the United States for his DOPING role with USA Olympic Team. He then went to MEXICO CITY where someone dropped his Name to MARQUEZ who was willing to do ANYTHING To Finally Beat Manny by ANY and ALL MEANS NECESSARY...Even if it Meant KILLING MANNY PACQUIAO in the Process And now he can call himself the PACQUIAO ASSASSIN...But Fact is, his Victory is as Hollow as BARRY Bonds Home RUN Records or Lance Armstrongs Tour De Frances exploits. :bottle::bottle::bottle:

What does Heredia know about Boxing? NOTHING He has even advertised his Doping services in EUROPE, GERMANY even did a Documentary on it and BRAGGED that his Former Clients were Disgraced MARION Jones, Tim Montgomery and Justin Gatlin. FACT IS, HEREDIA was Banned from Practising in the United States for his DOPING role with USA Olympic Team. He then went to MEXICO CITY where someone dropped his Name to MARQUEZ who was willing to do ANYTHING To Finally Beat Manny by ANY and ALL MEANS NECESSARY...Even if it Meant KILLING MANNY PACQUIAO in the Process And now he can call himself the PACQUIAO ASSASSIN...But Fact is, his Victory is as Hollow as BARRY Bonds Home RUN Records or Lance Armstrongs Tour De Frances exploits.

I would also like to know the relationship between Ariza and Heredia. That is something some of these so called journalists need to dig into. How long has Ariza known Heredia and did he work with him and for how long? Did he work with him before or during he was working with Pacquiao? Or is this just a recent relationship? Is this why Pacquiao stopped working with Ariza's program when he found out he worked with this guy? Does Ariza's use of science included PEDs, he need to answer those questions? Does Ariza have a history of PEDs? There are a lot of questions that need to be answered.

He was a federal informant, and he only became one because they laid out evidence such as wire taps, emails, bank transactions that he had no choice. He hid his name and was only found out during the 24/7 Pac Marquez 3 fight. He had his name as Hernandez, someone saw and snitched on him. Why would a legit guy use aliases? Why would a legit guy only work in Mexico, where peds are legal? Where are his records as a legit strength and conditioning coach? The only records we have are from his own words, which he says he provides elite athletes with peds. He's so proud of his work and boasts he has more than 20 designer drugs, mixed properly so they can never be detected. Why do you think he says test my athletes anytime and he is open to year round testing? Why do you think he only works in Mexico, away from US Federal agents? Why is it that all the athletes he has named were and are all peds cheat? Why can't he name his elite athletes that he has worked with without peds? Because there are none, they are all ped users. Because that's his expertise. Why has he named Usain Bolt as one of his ped clients, and why has Usain Bolt not caught yet? Because he's using one of Heredia's designer drugs. And guess what, he is proud of what he is doing, read his interview. He believes in a world where all athletes should be doing peds, so that the competition is more between the so called scientists that provide the peds. He considers himself a champion. http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1336807/699349861_medium.gif I'm sorry could you repeat what you just said, I'm so mesmerized by the knockout to wade through your tears.

Same reason Pacquiao hired Ariza.:dunno: Heredia is the Master while Ariza is just his dog. Heredia made 20 undetectable drugs while what Ariza can do?

Why would JMM hire a well known dope dealer ? To jerk Marquez off. What else?

Why would Andre Ward, Nonito Doniare, Arce, Pacquiao (Ariza learnt his trade off Heredia morons), plus many others? Heredia is now a federal informant. You honestly think Marquez would 1: hire a peds expert to get peds rather than doing it secretly while keeping his old trainer to keep things less sus, and 2: hire someone who was still suspected of dealing peds to athletes. He's a ****ing federal informant now. One of his jobs is to keep authorities abreast of developments in peds and snuff it out. You really think they wouldn't keep major league tabs on him? :nonono: As to the why, well it's pretty ****ing obvious moron. The guy is one of the leading experts in the world on crosstraining. Alex Ariza did his apprenticeship with him. Forget his previous peds stuff, he has worked as one of the worlds leading crosstrainers for the highest level athletes ever, is now a federal informer and is once again allowed to train athletes, because he knows he can't do it any more when you have the feds on your ass. He was a federal informant, and he only became one because they laid out evidence such as wire taps, emails, bank transactions that he had no choice. He hid his name and was only found out during the 24/7 Pac Marquez 3 fight. He had his name as Hernandez, someone saw and snitched on him. Why would a legit guy use aliases? Why would a legit guy only work in Mexico, where peds are legal? Where are his records as a legit strength and conditioning coach? The only records we have are from his own words, which he says he provides elite athletes with peds. He's so proud of his work and boasts he has more than 20 designer drugs, mixed properly so they can never be detected. Why do you think he says test my athletes anytime and he is open to year round testing? Why do you think he only works in Mexico, away from US Federal agents? Why is it that all the athletes he has named were and are all peds cheat? Why can't he name his elite athletes that he has worked with without peds? Because there are none, they are all ped users. Because that's his expertise. Why has he named Usain Bolt as one of his ped clients, and why has Usain Bolt not caught yet? Because he's using one of Heredia's designer drugs. And guess what, he is proud of what he is doing, read his interview. He believes in a world where all athletes should be doing peds, so that the competition is more between the so called scientists that provide the peds. He considers himself a champion.

got tired of losing to pacquiao, seriously though, the only way the series was gonna end with a definite winner was with one of them roiding up to the point that they could ko the other with a single shot, marquez just did it first

Why would Andre Ward, Nonito Doniare, Arce, Pacquiao (Ariza learnt his trade off Heredia morons), plus many others? Heredia is now a federal informant. You honestly think Marquez would 1: hire a peds expert to get peds rather than doing it secretly while keeping his old trainer to keep things less sus, and 2: hire someone who was still suspected of dealing peds to athletes. He's a ****ing federal informant now. One of his jobs is to keep authorities abreast of developments in peds and snuff it out. You really think they wouldn't keep major league tabs on him? :nonono: As to the why, well it's pretty ****ing obvious moron. The guy is one of the leading experts in the world on crosstraining. Alex Ariza did his apprenticeship with him. Forget his previous peds stuff, he has worked as one of the worlds leading crosstrainers for the highest level athletes ever, is now a federal informer and is once again allowed to train athletes, because he knows he can't do it any more when you have the feds on your ass. well that's interesting because last year ariza said...... I haven't talked to anybody about the guy . I didn't even know who he was until Victor Conte brought him up and it went all over the place. First of all, I don't know, maybe they can get a translator so they can understand this, but I've never said anything about Heredia. As a matter of fact, I didn't even know the guy's name until it was brought to my attention that there was people from Usain Bolt's training camp training him, which means more than one, not some fat Mexican in slippers, okay? I was assuming he had a training team, not that dude. Secondly, it was Victor Conte who outed him. I've never said anything about Heredia, Hernandez, or Guadalupe, or whatever his name is; I don't even know him from a can of paint and after I heard who he was, or whatever, I forgot about him 10 seconds after the phone call when I hung up the phone. http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11120.html also i know angel heredia was a government informant during the BALCO scandal where he ratted out everyone he worked with/supplied peds to. as a result of this he was granted leniency for his crimes... but he did recently meet with jeff novitzky before the 4th marquez fight... novitzky is an FDA investigator that was involved in the BALCO case and was the person that helped heredia walk away free. This year, Heredia met in Los Angeles this past week to discuss “what was going on in boxing” with FDA investigator Jeff Novitzky, of the BALCO and Lance Armstrong cases fame. To be clear, Novitzky, known in some circles as “the Steroid Cop” most likely is not discussing how to implement better testing in boxing. He is likely talking to his key witness about where the drugs in boxing might be. In several interviews this week, Heredia also claimed after this fight, all of his fighters would be required to be tested according to WADA code year round testing. Which begs the questions: “Required by who? Memo? Novitzky? The terms of his leniency deal?” http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/pacquiao-marquez-4-sweet-science-or-chemical-warfare and apparently the cause for this meeting was a result of roach's remarks before the 4th fight... Roach's remarks drew the attention of Jeff Novitzky, a government agent who has been investigating steroids in sports for years, including the BALCO case. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/boxing/2012/12/06/memo-to-roach-you-cant-speak-on-steroids-without-proof/1750233/ so all these remarks and rumors about heredia doing something illegal with marquez draws the attention of jeff novitzky who then meets with heredia to ask him about drugs in boxing..and right after heredia comes out with statements saying how any fighter working with him after marquez 4 fight needs to do year round testing... also it's surprising to hear that EPO and Testosterone is legal in Mexico... While Heredia maintains the legality of his work, it largely is taking place in Mexico where EPO and testosterone, two of the more popular PEDs on Earth, are legal. When Heredia declares his methods legal, one has to wonder in which country he is referring. http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/pacquiao-marquez-4-sweet-science-or-chemical-warfare it's even more interesting when you read that memo himself said that EPO and Testosterone should be made legal for all sports.... I believe we should authorize the use of epo, IGF and testosterone, as well as adrenaline and epitestosterone – substances that the body produces itself. Simply for pragmatic reasons, because it is impossible to detect them, and also because of the fairness aspect. http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/a-571031.html

there are plenty of those around. heredia's unique skills lie in the procurement and use of PED's. why you'd bring in a shady guy if you're not being shady is beyond me. lets be real for a second only after he hooks up with a steroid guru does he look like he's juicing? he looked like f#cking he man. he didn't when he fought mayweather. a 39 year old does not transform his body like that without enhancement. certainly not in 12 weeks while going through a normal boxing routine putting on mass requires serious rest and time, especially when you are almost 40 and small to begin with. PED's alleviate that, and allow you to train much harder without breaking down. Heredia is definitely an expert and very educated in this game. He certainly knows how to get someone into the shape Marquez was in without PED's. Not that I am claiming he's 100% clean. Suspicion is necessary. But, Heredia is top class, with or without PED's.

Hernandez is educated, I believe he has a master's degree. That's why Marquez hired him. there are plenty of those around. heredia's unique skills lie in the procurement and use of PED's. why you'd bring in a shady guy if you're not being shady is beyond me. lets be real for a second only after he hooks up with a steroid guru does he look like he's juicing? he looked like f#cking he man. he didn't when he fought mayweather. a 39 year old does not transform his body like that without enhancement. certainly not in 12 weeks while going through a normal boxing routine putting on mass requires serious rest and time, especially when you are almost 40 and small to begin with. PED's alleviate that, and allow you to train much harder without breaking down.

you hire a PED guru to take PED's without failing two joke piss tests.

To get in better shape, I'm guessing.

Same reason Pacquiao hired Ariza.:dunno:

Hernandez is educated, I believe he has a master's degree. That's why Marquez hired him.

Why would Andre Ward, Nonito Doniare, Arce, Pacquiao (Ariza learnt his trade off Heredia morons), plus many others? Heredia is now a federal informant. You honestly think Marquez would 1: hire a peds expert to get peds rather than doing it secretly while keeping his old trainer to keep things less sus, and 2: hire someone who was still suspected of dealing peds to athletes. He's a ****ing federal informant now. One of his jobs is to keep authorities abreast of developments in peds and snuff it out. You really think they wouldn't keep major league tabs on him? :nonono: As to the why, well it's pretty ****ing obvious moron. The guy is one of the leading experts in the world on crosstraining. Alex Ariza did his apprenticeship with him. Forget his previous peds stuff, he has worked as one of the worlds leading crosstrainers for the highest level athletes ever, is now a federal informer and is once again allowed to train athletes, because he knows he can't do it any more when you have the feds on your ass. This is a good point. Who would even take the risk to supply him with steroids once it becomes known fact that he is working with feds?

Heredia to Marquez - "For many years, I helped my world class clients to flout the rules and easily avoided Olympic or any detection test. Substances like human growth hormone and the blood booster erythropoietin, or EPO, are still virtually impossible to detect, and "it is still easy to use testosterone" with fast-acting creams. You combine all these things - boom! - you get amazing results!" Marquez - "Really? I can beat Pacquiao if I use this and there is no test can catch me? Heredia - Really! You don't have to worry. I have 20 undetectable stuff that will make you like a hulk and punch like a hulk.

Why would JMM hire a well known dope dealer ? Because he knows Heredia can beat the drug testing system. Marquez is so obsessed to beat Pacquiao at all cost

After getting "robbed" so many times he deserved some payback and the PEDs were a fair trade for bad judges, right? In seriousness though, we can speculate for days but the chances of catching someone are miniscule. So, at some point you have to let it go and just understand that it's currently part of the sport.