Do you think Marquez can beat Pacquiao if he didnt hire Heredia?

what a ****ing stupid thread this is

Many experts thought Marquez won the second fight, so yes.

I think they're equally matched and it was only a matter of time before Marquez finally won one.

Marquez hired Heredia in his 3rd fight against Pacquaio and he performed better than the last two fights and so the 4th where he looked great. Do you think Manny would have succeeded going into the higher weight classes without Ariza?

Yes...........