Marquez Practicing the Lucky Punch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QktG_WDjwcU Pretty simple, here is the 6th round, I counted 16 attempts with the same punch, unfortunately Manny walked into the last one

Marquez had just slipped a Pac jab and Marquez had his head right around Pacs shoulder when he threw the punch. It was pretty much exactly like the one he landed on the sparring partner. Where you may have landed a great lucky punch Marquez punch was nothing like the one you described. he describes the punch as wild but like roach described it, the punch was a 2inch punch not sure how much room for wildness he has in those 2inches. and I do box amateur as well I don't have a bias I like all fighters which i think i need to state on a site like this. the fact is if you rewatch the fight JMM was'nt even looking to engage he was looking for body first and then go upstairs thats why he looked like he was getting dominated because he was waiting for an opportunity to unload. man I dont know how to quote multiple people.......sorry jayblack i agree with u...

some ppl suck at sarcasm haha This ^^^ character length restriction

Well,Iwent to the trouble of watching it-something I don't ordinarily do. You are quite wrong. The punch which put the sparring partner down was a normal straight right, thrown at the opponent when straight in front of him, as were all the other rights. This is nothing like the punch which put Pacquiao down. THAT punch was a desperate, wildly thrown punch, and I advise you to look at it again, especially the slo-mo. Marquez's head was down actually past Pacquiao's right-side waist, when the punch landed. He may have wanted it to connect, but he had no idea where it was really going. Pacquiao didn't see it coming and that was to be expected. I distinctly recall a similar punch I threw many, many years ago. We were preparing for the Universities Chamionships, and a former member, who by now was a doctor, and around 40 years old used to come every year to spar and get us into shape. He had been a phenomenon in his day, won the Uiversities Junior, Senior, and Irish National Junior and Senior Championships in the same year. He was a welterweight then but sparring with us he was likely a middle. I was a featherweight with a heavy left hand punch not so much a right hand. He was all over me around the ring and in sheer desperation from very close in, I threw a right hand exactly like Marquez's. My head was down around his waist and I had no idea where it would land. Ivan said after the round to us all, that he thought his jaw was broken (it wasn't) but it had to have been the heaviest punch I ever threw. That sort of punch is a lucky punch. So now you're gonna compare yourself, some nobody amatuer, to Juan Manuel freakin Marquez? Lmao. There was nothing lucky about that boxing, only people saying it are those who don't understand boxing or just want to hate.

Well,Iwent to the trouble of watching it-something I don't ordinarily do. You are quite wrong. The punch which put the sparring partner down was a normal straight right, thrown at the opponent when straight in front of him, as were all the other rights. This is nothing like the punch which put Pacquiao down. THAT punch was a desperate, wildly thrown punch, and I advise you to look at it again, especially the slo-mo. Marquez's head was down actually past Pacquiao's right-side waist, when the punch landed. He may have wanted it to connect, but he had no idea where it was really going. Pacquiao didn't see it coming and that was to be expected. I distinctly recall a similar punch I threw many, many years ago. We were preparing for the Universities Chamionships, and a former member, who by now was a doctor, and around 40 years old used to come every year to spar and get us into shape. He had been a phenomenon in his day, won the Uiversities Junior, Senior, and Irish National Junior and Senior Championships in the same year. He was a welterweight then but sparring with us he was likely a middle. I was a featherweight with a heavy left hand punch not so much a right hand. He was all over me around the ring and in sheer desperation from very close in, I threw a right hand exactly like Marquez's. My head was down around his waist and I had no idea where it would land. Ivan said after the round to us all, that he thought his jaw was broken (it wasn't) but it had to have been the heaviest punch I ever threw. That sort of punch is a lucky punch. Marquez had just slipped a Pac jab and Marquez had his head right around Pacs shoulder when he threw the punch. It was pretty much exactly like the one he landed on the sparring partner. Where you may have landed a great lucky punch Marquez punch was nothing like the one you described.

thats some juice hes on jeeeeezzzzz

first knockdown was a wide looping right hand 2nd knockout was a straight right to the chin the timing was also different the first knockdown pac was kind of stepping backward and got hit then 2nd knockout pac jumped in to the straight right hand which doubled the force for the knockout I wasn't talking about the 3rd round KD, I was comparing the KO shot (a short overhand right) to the shot Marquez used to drop his sparring partner (a short straight right) the angle is different but the timing is the same.

some ppl suck at sarcasm haha TS shoulda included an apostrophe on that lucky punch part. some people just suck at getting jokes lol

Funny, you didnt think it was an overhand right before.... :boxing: At that point I had only watched the fight once on a stream and thought it was the exact same shot he used in sparring but after rewatching the fight in HD I noticed he changed the angle a little bit. It's still pretty much the same counter though. The timing is exactly the same.

ps...still lucky he KO'd pacman.

No that punch is different. You counter the southpaw jab with a straight right hand while leaning to your left but Marquez's punch has a different angle, it's a short overhand right. Goddamn you're beyond stupid. 1. It wasn't an overhand right it was a short straight right hand :pat: 2. All you gotta do is press play and you'll see JMM practicing that same counter he landed on Pac. Same timing, angle, same everything. Funny, you didnt think it was an overhand right before.... :boxing:

That is the counter to the jab from a lefty. It's called an off angle right hand, sometimes it's been called other things but it's not a secret in the boxing world or anything like that. No that punch is different. You counter the southpaw jab with a straight right hand while leaning to your left but Marquez's punch has a different angle, it's a short overhand right.

that is the counter to the jab from a lefty. It's called an off angle right hand, sometimes it's been called other things but it's not a secret in the boxing world or anything like that. I just think that manny hurting jmm in the last seconds of the 6th round, actually hurt him in the end because he got too aggressive. I wonder how much of what roach said to him really played into that. The worst thing you can do is be overly aggressive against a counter puncher. Great punch though, amazing timing and it will go down as one of the best right hands in the history of boxing. ^^^^^^^^^^ this exactly...

i think TS was being sarcastic when he posted this.... It's called sarcasm. They can't read sarcasm like we can.

I know that Manny has a cult like following but don't try to make it seem as if that man just threw a lucky punch. He fought him 3 times before. He knows him very well. The pump fake to the trademark Pacquiao southpaw straight put Marquez on his seat. He just found a way to counter it at the right time. Do I think he was on something when he was training.

some ppl suck at sarcasm haha

Not a lucky punch at all.

http://www.onthacorner.com/forum/Smileys/default/sadto.gif you'll be straight

Marquez knocks down sparring partner before the pac fight.. If you rewatch the fight you can see the game plan for marquez was sustain body work to set up the big right... Great fight all around and I hope Pac bounces back... If this was posted b4 my bad I didn't see it... imbed is not working link below https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CqcrmP6HbI4 Well,Iwent to the trouble of watching it-something I don't ordinarily do. You are quite wrong. The punch which put the sparring partner down was a normal straight right, thrown at the opponent when straight in front of him, as were all the other rights. This is nothing like the punch which put Pacquiao down. THAT punch was a desperate, wildly thrown punch, and I advise you to look at it again, especially the slo-mo. Marquez's head was down actually past Pacquiao's right-side waist, when the punch landed. He may have wanted it to connect, but he had no idea where it was really going. Pacquiao didn't see it coming and that was to be expected. I distinctly recall a similar punch I threw many, many years ago. We were preparing for the Universities Chamionships, and a former member, who by now was a doctor, and around 40 years old used to come every year to spar and get us into shape. He had been a phenomenon in his day, won the Uiversities Junior, Senior, and Irish National Junior and Senior Championships in the same year. He was a welterweight then but sparring with us he was likely a middle. I was a featherweight with a heavy left hand punch not so much a right hand. He was all over me around the ring and in sheer desperation from very close in, I threw a right hand exactly like Marquez's. My head was down around his waist and I had no idea where it would land. Ivan said after the round to us all, that he thought his jaw was broken (it wasn't) but it had to have been the heaviest punch I ever threw. That sort of punch is a lucky punch.

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