Comments Thread For: Hunter Says Khan Wasn't Given Proper Instructions

Khan had better deliver this Saturday, because they're hyping him up to be a changed man. We'll see. I doubt he can change his ridiculous flaws in a matter of months. Luckily he's fighting a nobody... or, maybe that'll be bad.

I agree with some points Roach doesnt respect defense and he also doesnt respect the Jab, Pac paid the price over the weekend. When Roach says "tie him up" how can he when he has not been taught how to clinch There is an art to clinching, yo have to train for these things Khan has so many faults and Roach is responsible for many of them, i think it maybe to late to reverse the the defensive damage Roach has done to Khans skills. Here you have a tall, long armed guy who has been taught not to use his jab/reach and fights using flurries and have zero defense and doesnt know how to clinch...back to basics man

The Amir Khan era starts this Saturday hahahhaaha

Yes, much better to run like Bradley or Dirrell to try to steal a decision or fake an injury like Hopkins or Judah to fraud a DQ. :rolleyes: Win or lose, most British fighters will go toe to toe before they'd take a backward step. You can call it what you want, but objectively they show courage and pride in battle. They show that because they have no other way to fight..Bradley never ran from Pac,instead he fought smart there is a difference..If you can't see it I don't know what to tell ya... Leonard showed courage in his 1st fight with Duran...But ask him and he will tell you he fought stupid,plain and simple..So do you believe what Leonard did in the 2end fight was running or trying to steal a victory as you put it??LOL come on son,the name of the game is to hit and not be hit..Not got toe to toe to see who takes a punch better..I would agree what Dirrell did was running,because he did everything in his power to not engage Froch..But when Dirrell fought AA(for at least the first 9 or 10 rds)he boxed effectively which is different then running or avoiding... Like I said already,stupidity call it what it is...Or not having the skill to win a fight by not taking undo punishment...I believe most fighters(no matter where they are from)if they feel the fight is slipping or if they are badly hurt,mentality is to go balls to the wall...I'm not taking away that they are showing courage..But since when is taking a beating glorified??Once again the name of the game is to hit and not be hit...

What you call British pride(snicker)I call flat out stupidity...Let's just call it what it is..Stupidity... Yes, much better to run like Bradley or Dirrell to try to steal a decision or fake an injury like Hopkins or Judah to fraud a DQ. :rolleyes: Win or lose, most British fighters will go toe to toe before they'd take a backward step. You can call it what you want, but objectively they show courage and pride in battle.

It's the pride in British fighters. Thing is regarding Roach, Khan wasn't listening to him anyway. Hunter has a point about Angel Garcia, that should have been handled before the fight. What you call British pride(snicker)I call flat out stupidity...Let's just call it what it is..Stupidity...

I don't think roach sent him out to go toe to toe, but that's Amir's character he's a fighter and acts like one when he's in those situations. He could have outboxed Peterson, but instead chose to exchange with him. He acts like a fighter and I have to say that's why I root for him. It's the pride in British fighters. Thing is regarding Roach, Khan wasn't listening to him anyway. Hunter has a point about Angel Garcia, that should have been handled before the fight.

Be interesting to see Khan's punch output in his next fight. I'd imagine as soon as he gets Molina hurt or hurt himself he will go hell for leather again. It's all instinct with Khan. I doubt that can be trained out. idk, I would probably do the same if I went into the ring. The opponent is hurt, I would try to finish him off, and if i would be hurt I would rather go out on my shield than to take a knee..stupid maybe, but its worth taking the risk rather than fighting like Vazquez where everyone is happy if you lose..

Why does everybody want to turn Khan into Vazquez. Vazquez runs and ducks and avoids a fire fight, wins, and everybody says he stinks. I like Khans attitude, in the ring that is, where it's him or the other guy. He makes mistakes and gets blasted or the other guy misses his chance and just pummels him around a bit. From a spectator point of view what's wrong with that? With his sheild or on it, war Khan. Oh yeah, don't speak.

Did Roach teach Khan how to tie up an opponent when hurt? Because I saw the footage of Khan training pre fight and as usual he was having no defence and roach was just watching on not saying anything. We have to remember, Roach has had Khan since he was virtually a teenager. He was young enough to learn a new style and new skills, instead all roach really did was excaggerate the style he already used He hasn't taught Khan to clinch, to fight inside, to block an uppercut etc etc etc etc. Roach has trained flaws into khans game, Hunter knows these flaws and will now try to train them out of him. I know it's fashionable to Hate on Khan but the fact is he has the same flaws that pretty much all roach fighters have. Maybe he can change, maybe it's too late, but roach certainly didn't focus on his defence and jab which should always have been the focus, instead he tried to make him Manny 2.0 when everyone else knew Khan didn't have the same punch resistance or power to do that, and should have used his height and reach advantage and speed to stay out of trouble and keep off the ropes Khan should never have been an all offensive fighter he should have been trained to box I don't believe that the means of using defence -tying-up etc- are video'd so that the whole world knows exactly what fighters are being taught. This would be a suicidal "game given away" move. The various means of defence are practiced in private, as are specific "one-time-only" special surprise attacking moves, and the videos for the public are all about the "action" and "excitement" stuff, to make it attractive for viewers to buy.......For instance none of us saw any video showing David Haye collapsing on the canvas every time he got close to a clinch..... If The Roach was telling him to "tie him up" you can be sure that this was something that Khan had practiced over and over again for countless hours. It seems obvious that Garcia was trying to not allow Khan to tie up, and that Khan took quite a few solid punches in that 4th round pretty well, which caused him to feel he could take it O.K. because he stopped tying up and just covered up. The 1st time he went down in that round he was WIIIDE open, and deserved it. Garcia didn't even see where the punch was landing, which actually hapens pretty often-the Pacquiao fight for instance.. Hickey, try to get back the sense you were born with.

idk.. i like hunter but i think he should wait until he dealt with khan in the ring before making accusations. its one thing dealing with andre ward whos cool, calm and collected throughout the fight and is able to think clearly and follow instructions with no problem. khan is a whole other story, he gets so hyped up when hes fighting. especially when he gets hit, at which point he stops both listening and thinking. if hunter is able to get through to khan on fight night and make him stay clam and listen much credit to him, but it might be easier said than done. I agree,it's a mentality issues imo..That's something that can be calmed but never totally taken out of a fighter(imo)...A fighter will always turn to what his instincts tells him when faced with adversity...

idk.. i like hunter but i think he should wait until he dealt with khan in the ring before making accusations. its one thing dealing with andre ward whos cool, calm and collected throughout the fight and is able to think clearly and follow instructions with no problem. khan is a whole other story, he gets so hyped up when hes fighting. especially when he gets hit, at which point he stops both listening and thinking. if hunter is able to get through to khan on fight night and make him stay clam and listen much credit to him, but it might be easier said than done.

Roach is an easy target right now. Besides, let's see how Khan performs against Molina before pointing fingers.

Be interesting to see Khan's punch output in his next fight. I'd imagine as soon as he gets Molina hurt or hurt himself he will go hell for leather again. It's all instinct with Khan. I doubt that can be trained out.

Amir khan may look like a slick, new and improved boxer vs light punching lightweights but reality will kick in pretty fast when he is on the verge of another title shot or even a move up in weight and he is about to face dangerous punchers garcia, mathysse, abregu, brook or top class fighters like mayweather, pacquiao, bradley. He will put on a few good performances against light punchers like cuenca... get hyped up again by golden boy...he and hunter will look like the dream partnership...he will fight a big puncher...look good for a few rounds then get tagged again...do the khan wiggle...get stopped then blame it on hunter then retire or move onto a new trainer lol

Its probably a combination of the two. Kahns too eager to go into a slugfest and fights with heart not his brain and Roach is probably best suited to training offensive fighters were Kahn should be training to box. Simple. End thread and stop bitching blaming one side or the other.

There is a reason why Roach fighters alway walk into a punch that they don't see coming and then get KTFO by those punches. Was Roach Khan's trainer in the Prescott fight as well??

IMO it was not Roach was not telling him what to do..It was that Roach was not telling him with any authority..But the way Khan fought in both his KO losses was his own fault...TBH a product of his own ego as well..

Yes Roach should have instructed Khan to have a better chin.

Khan fans will think Hunter is the greatest trainer of all time after he toys with I light hitting lightweight.