I want vengeance

Another baseless thread, really?? The pain is still strong I see. Your idol GTFO it happens deal with it and move on. Crybabies that now all of the sudden want stronger test done. It has come full circle and it is hilarious.

WHY are pacquaio fans talking noise about PED use while their fighter had all the controversy of not wanted to tests randomly? IF a pac jmm V ever gets made. jmm will be 41 and it probably won't get made either way because there's nothing left for him to prove. lol sorry pac fans

Hes added muscle the right way, it was at a higher weight and he was working on S&C Manny has taken a sh1t load of punishment throughout his career, its no surprise his punch resistance maybe going. Marquez offered drug testing; Arum said no so fcuk off with the peds accusations, everyone is bored of it already. Innocent until proven guilty And there isn't a 'ped' steroid, pro-hormone on the planet that will directly increase punching power or handspeed, timing, accuracy etc Christ almighty it makes me laugh how people think steroids are just some magic pill you pop and they transform you into the second coming of Tyson.

How ironic is this outcome? Pacfarts' reactions to Marquez' KO make the victory so much sweeter. I thought most of you backed Ariza's claims when he says Pacquiao is a clean fighter. Now that Ariza says that Marquez' physique and outbursts of power had nothing to do with PEDs but they were the outcome of dedication and hard work, you guys ignore it completely.:nono:

JMM offered to be tested if Manny tested as well. Marquez's physique is nowhere near what some would have you believe. He's added 5-10lbs of muscle over two years on top of being naturally heavy set.

LMFAO what the hell so you want Floyd to take up for Manny now???man im logging off this is to funny

of course you're not alone. it's on everyone's mind, but some people refuse to think about because it's marquez and he's such a legendary fighter. but marquez in his prime landed clean flush shots on pac (watch the 1st and 2nd fights)..that same looping right he landed that knocked down pac in the 3rd round he landed in the first fight and pac didn't look close to getting knocked down. here's an excerpt from an interview that carlos molina's strength and conditioning coach gave to leave it in the ring radio: http://leaveitintheringradio.com/?p=6848 WHETHER HE THINKS THE SIZE THAT MARQUEZ PUT ON, IN THE QUICK TIME PERIOD THAT HE DID SO, AT HIS AGE, SHOULD BE QUESTIONED? Garcia: “Yes, definitely. Yes, yes and yes. You hit on some key points. It’s a natural thing aging. When you age, one of the main factors is a difference in hormone levels your body does produce, that being directly related to your muscular skeletal system and everything else. It has to do with recovery… a lot of that is hormone based. So yes, of course, later on in life, to get that much better, definitely has to raise questions. Even if you just look at the 24/7 there was a really important small comment, that maybe a lot of people didn’t catch, within what Nacho Beristain said. He said, ‘this time when Marquez came into camp, he came into camp very explosive. He had this strength and explosiveness like I’ve never seen before. And you know, and for those that don’t know, especially in the sport of boxing, you would use PEDs in the off-season when nobody’s looking, and do all that ground work before you even signed that fight. And then you have those two or three months of training, then you would have your eight week training — your boxing training. So if he’s coming into training this way… because they know that these questions will be raised, obviously they could have used before. So yes, you could say that it does raise a lot of red flags, whether it’s true or not, or they’re really that great at what they do. But honestly… genetically, naturally, it’s not… I wouldn’t say it’s impossible, but pretty close to impossible.” so definitely it is questionable....gabriel montoya right now is drilling heredia on twitter. even nacho beristain the guy who trained marquez since he was 12 was surprised that marquez knocked out pac and how explosive and strong he was because he said that marquez was NEVER a one punch knockout type of fighter...he breaks you down..ask katsidis and juan diaz.