Campillo is the only even money fight for Ward at 168-175 IMO if we eliminate the hometown decision factor. Ive never seen him lose a fight. Dude's style would be tough for Ward and he might be able to time Ward.
:haha: This is the guy that's supposed to beat Ward?
This is the best LHW in the world :thinking:
Dude is getting KO'd on Friday Night Fights FFS
Not as good as commentating on Showtime but at least it's fighting.
Ward has no pedigree at 175 at professional level. I'd find it hard to pick him against any of the top LHs, particularly as they wouldn't be so easy to bully physically.
Until he fights and beats someone at the weight I can't pick him against anyone there.
who's his best fight south of cw?
laugh if you want,
But i think Mayweather is the ONLY fight for Ward.
Some type of catch weight or other. But realistically look at the sheer quality ALONE of the two fighters.
It supercedes pretty much everyone in boxing.
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Walt, my reason is still sitting on the front page; it hasn't moved.
But never mind cause anyone that has told you you're wrong, you only tell them why you're fight. That tells me you already have your mind made up and aren't open to interjections; which tells me why the fcuk did your stupid ass make the thread in the first place.
But let someone come in here and tell you what you want to hear, then you're sucking dich..
Clown like material here, but I expect nothing greater.
I'm completely opn to objections, but i can't take this seriously
Campillo has a Sergio Martinez type of style.
new england made good points. i think he's overlooking campillo's inside game. he wont let ward tie him up all night like dawson did because he's comfortable in the pocket.
the thread was made becaause it was never made before and it brought in some intelligent posters with some good opinions.
your amateurish statement like "its delusional to say he's a better opponent that abraham, kessler, froch, and dawson' were the low points of the thread. campillo at 175 coulds possibly shi t harder on abraham=ward at 168 and its at absolute worst even compared to the other 3.
and cleverly wont be fukn with campillo in my lifetime
BTW, I was the first one to tell you you were full of schit.
Not sure how I've been pulling on someone's coat tail being that I was the first in here. Just so happens 90% agree. But I'll let you tell it.
you gave no reason, you had nothing until new england posted, then you piggybacked
I think Ward would clean out 175lbs.
And to be honest.......I don't think anyone south of 200 lbs would beat him. That includes the likes of Mayweather and Martinez...........etc.
He's been pedigreed far too perfectly and to this day he's easily one of......if not the most UNDERRATED fighters in boxing.
His only flaw........is that he's way too technical and has the capacity to bore people out of seats in some fights. But he won't lose.
who's his best fight south of cw?
Ok Walt almost 90% disagree.
Whatever man, keep bumping this thread though.
what matters is who posts. i dont care about 90% of the people's opinions on this forum. you go head and be a sheep, its perfect for you.
notice none of them posted who else or why...because they don't know shi t like you.
i only bumped it once, cuz I left it about 10 hrs ago and some good peeps posted in it (not including you- mr campillo has the same style as sergio)
clown:rofl:
I think Ward would clean out 175lbs.
And to be honest.......I don't think anyone south of 200 lbs would beat him. That includes the likes of Mayweather and Martinez...........etc.
He's been pedigreed far too perfectly and to this day he's easily one of......if not the most UNDERRATED fighters in boxing.
His only flaw........is that he's way too technical and has the capacity to bore people out of seats in some fights. But he won't lose.
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Embarrassing myself?
Have you seen "your" poll?
Only embarrassment is you and this stupid thread. We've told you over and over the fight's not close. What don't you understand about that?
lets see, dan, dazed, mj223, brother jay seem to agree with me,
you parroted new england because you had nothing worthwhile to say adn bojan disagreed. therefore, the thread is validated. YOPU DONT KNOW **** ABOUT CAMPILLO.
gues what, NOONE agrees with your stupid cleverly shi t so you're clearly the dummy
My comment about Campillo getting KO'd had nothing to do with Ward, I was just replying your comment that said "I never seen Campillo lose". Well obviously you didn't see the fight where he got knocked out, that means you don't know much about the guy's career and you make threads about him? lol
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no but you implied campillo cant fuk with ward but in the next sentence you said dirrel can (who has also been ko's in much worse fashion.
ive seen every campillo fight I can find on youtube. 6 fights. i know he lost by ko but why dont you tell me about it?
Disagree.
Campillo can't touch Ward in the pocket; not even close.
His power won't command any respect whatsoever.
His jab is at best average or slightly below. Nothing this guy does says anything about giving Ward the best fight of his life.
If he tries to use his movement like he likes to do, Ward pot shots and beats him from the outside.
Absolutely nothing this guy has done says he gives Ward the toughest fight of his life; not even beating Cloud. We all know Cloud and Ward are two different types of fighters.
This is common sense here.
stop embarrassing yourself, i told you to gtfo earlier when you said campillo's style is like sergio. all you've seen is cloud-campillo and campillo got hi respect and has gotten his respect at 175- not 168.
note that the few astute posters that came inthis thread seem to disagree with you on all accounts. no surprise there
Campillo is a tough fight for any light heavyweight and would pose problems for Ward but I think he loses. Ward just knows how to win fights; he can get down and dirty in the trenches and beat you up, and he's got excellent ring generalship so, like a Roy Jones, he gives off the appearance (to go along with the reality) of being the superior skilled fighter. Campillo is really good but I think Ward is a bit too much.
Dirrell is the wildcard but we have no idea how good he is at this stage and I didn't think he could beat Ward even before he went on a furlough. Ward isn't perfect but he's probably the best fighter in the world right now.
I like your analysis, but like Bro Jay and I were discussing, Ward only has to take away long range v Dirrel. Dirrel can't do much of anything else. Campillo has more options. I wouldn't favor Campillo but its close to an ever fight imo because my fantasy matchup is at 175
Campillo? Granted Campillo was robbed against Cloud and Shumenov in their rematch fight...but Ward would have absolutely NO PROBLEM with Campillo and neither would Chad Dawson at 175
So I honestly don't see anybody beating Ward at 175 either if Dawson can't do it and I am not even sure Dawson wants a rematch against Ward to be honest not even at 175
So? Ward is a ko puncher now?
Dirrell got ko'd too. Nice logic.
My comment about Campillo getting KO'd had nothing to do with Ward, I was just replying your comment that said "I never seen Campillo lose". Well obviously you didn't see the fight where he got knocked out, that means you don't know much about the guy's career and you make threads about him? lol
And before I forget, what the fcuk does that have to do with anything?
In the history of boxing, guys that had potential went on to do great things after struggling with lesser competition. If you followed the sport, you would know this.
Holyfield and Michael Moorer went life and death with fcuking Bert Cooper to give you a small example.
Mayweather went life and death with Emmanual Augstus. A guy he claimed to be his toughest opponent before Cotto.
Speaking of Cotto, he's been horribly rocked by Torres and Corely; almost stopped.
And the list goes on and on.
Come on man.
Yes it's possible for a fighter to struggle against lower tier opposition and still become great in the long run, but the chances are small. The fighters you mentioned are exceptional cases. Sure, Cleverly could end up being a HOF fighter, it's possible, but as of today there is no reason at all to to pick Cleverly over Campillo.
Disagree.
Campillo can't touch Ward in the pocket; not even close.
His power won't command any respect whatsoever.
His jab is at best average or slightly below. Nothing this guy does says anything about giving Ward the best fight of his life.
If he tries to use his movement like he likes to do, Ward pot shots and beats him from the outside.
Absolutely nothing this guy has done says he gives Ward the toughest fight of his life; not even beating Cloud. We all know Cloud and Ward are two different types of fighters.
This is common sense here.
I think you're really underestimating Campillo here & not even beating Cloud? :rofl: Did you see that fight? It was one of the worst robberies of the year.
He beat the sh1t out of Cloud.
And yes I do think he is better than Dawson. Just my opinion but Dawson in my eyes does nothing as well as Campillo.
I'm not taking anything away from Ward but I've never held Dawson in high regard like others & think Wards win over Froch is far better than his win over Dawson.
Like I say nothing against Ward or Dawson for that matter but I've always felt he was quite chinny, his workrate is poor and whilst he has a lot of great names on his resume, they're pretty much all well, well in their 40s and were clearly past their prime.
If Campillo fought Dawson at 175 tomorrow, I'd take him a heartbeat, whether he got the decision is another thing.
Would have to go with Ward but I think Campillo would give him his toughest test in the pro ranks.
Campillo has to get past Kovalev, that is no easy task.
Hes been on the receiving end of a lot of bad decisions but hes a very good, complete fighter.
Hes very balanced though I don't think he has the best chin in the world.
I think apart from having a rather average chin, Campillo does everything well & people talk about a lack of power, he has enough pop to command respect.
Would have to go with Ward taking a 116-112 type decision.
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