Hello, where i can found this book? It is from Alcides Sagarra, the trainer who made Teofilo Stevenson and Felix Savon 3 times olympic champions. The book name is : El Boxeo PDC in the Escuela Cubana ; PDC = Periodo Directo Competencia ( its on Spanish ) And on English its something like : Live Boxing Competition Period in the National School ; But i am not sure if its like that in English. This book is selling at Havana, Cuba but i cant find in internet where i can order it or something. Please i need help. I think there is things where he talk about cuban programs and trainings. I really need that cubans training, thear program and thinks like that.
Greetings!!! :boxing:
Isnt it better to found people like Maikro Romeo, Kindelan or even Savon and ask them for help? And is it possible to found Sagarra? + I saw some videos on youtube and i understand that Miranda learn on basic things and he is there for more like making money you understand? He is for the tourist to learn them some things and get paid, but i want to learn more, not the basic things.......
Hello again! Thank you to all. But i really want to train the cuban way. I am even able to go there for 1 mouth. Can you give me advice? Where to go, where are people like Felix Savon, Maikro Romeo, Ariel Hernandez ? Havana ? Where i can meet Alcides Sagarra? And is that trainer Carlos Miranda good?
if you wanna go to havana for a month i would highly recommend miranda, he knows his sh*t. he was maykel (the author of the books we were talking about) and mine for that year i was there. he's real good.
Thanks man. The Quillin documentary was posted not too long on here. Might be a few pages back. Let's see what I can do.
EDIT: Wait are you talking about Quillin or the original Kid Chocolate??? :lol1:
nah mate the original kid choc. by some dude called chijona, 1987, ICAIC
but yeah the quillin one i should give a look too, thanks!
Hello again! Thank you to all. But i really want to train the cuban way. I am even able to go there for 1 mouth. Can you give me advice? Where to go, where are people like Felix Savon, Maikro Romeo, Ariel Hernandez ? Havana ? Where i can meet Alcides Sagarra? And is that trainer Carlos Miranda good?
definitely all of them are just in spanish (sagarra one included)
not sure the sagarra one in print still - plenty of copies 2008, then 2009 they seemed to disappear a bit, but you could find one.
by the way- if any has/can get hold of the cuban kid chocolate documentary i would be very interested indeed!
Thanks man. The Quillin documentary was posted not too long on here. Might be a few pages back. Let's see what I can do.
EDIT: Wait are you talking about Quillin or the original Kid Chocolate??? :lol1:
the other one is about the cuban system of selecting potential talents. interesting book but will be of little practical use to most people - unless you have a socialist system to play with and select your athletes from...
Almost sprayed the computer screen with soda on that one! :lol1:
Thanks for the input on those books, "Frosty". I enjoyed reading your thoughts/information on them. Just to see what those Cuban-printed editions look like is pretty interesting to me.
Very interesting. MAYBE I will pick these up...
Are they in english or spanish? (Not that it matters, just curious)
definitely all of them are just in spanish (sagarra one included)
not sure the sagarra one in print still - plenty of copies 2008, then 2009 they seemed to disappear a bit, but you could find one.
And with Cuba's super duper technology (which has improved some) I don't even know if they have copy machines to make copies. :lol1:
oh they print a fair few books mate, f*ck, you should seen how many i brought back after a year living there!
fidel y el deporte - a collection of (many) quotations of his on sport throughout the decades. real interesting. i got an edition with him wearing boxing gloves on the front cover, classic!
also another book also where he talks about his own little experience of boxing, over the course of a summer in his youth
to my mind, these are the only genuinely high quality boxing manuals out there (i've seen a fair few, most of them awful, some half decent), in either spanish or english at least - maybe the russians have something but i've seen some of theirs that they had translated as textbooks for the cubans and they were not as good.
And with Cuba's super duper technology (which has improved some) I don't even know if they have copy machines to make copies. :lol1:
I guess this answers my question.
May I ask what these books are about? Im not a big reader myself but I just like to know about stuff.
one is about the cuban school of boxing in a more general sense (worth getting 1st), with a bit of history in there, some quality explanations of the ideas behind quality boxing, and plenty of great quality explanations of techniques etc. the photos are about the most accurate and true that you will find - check out other boxing books and the example photos are always plagued with hideous errors, which is just plain dumb.
the padwork (mascotas) is interesting as it shows the cuban style of this which is based on scientific analysis and damn good common sense - you'll learn where to hold the pads which 99.9% of people do wrong in my experience (yeah there's more than one right way i'm sure but regardless almost everyone holds pads with some dodgy technique or uses them in the wrong way at the wrong time)
the other one is about the cuban system of selecting potential talents. interesting book but will be of little practical use to most people - unlesss you have a socialist system to play with and select your athletes from...
The book exists; I saw it mentioned in several different websites. But there doesn't seem to be a copy for sale on the Internet. If one were so inclined, Cuba would be the first place to look. But even then, it's availability would depend on how many copies were printed. Unfortunately, the book must have had very limited production. Unless they get lucky, an interested party is going to have a tough time tracking down a copy.
And with Cuba's super duper technology (which has improved some) I don't even know if they have copy machines to make copies. :lol1:
you gotta go to cuba to get yourself a copy i'm afraid matey...
that said i have a copy and it really isn't going to help you at all. its an excellent book but not usable for most people. don't sweat over it.
get the books by maykel - he's a good friend of mine and really knows whats what, his books are technical but very usable. he just got his phd certificate come through a couple of weeks back although he actually completed it a good time ago.
I guess this answers my question.
May I ask what these books are about? Im not a big reader myself but I just like to know about stuff.
Hello, where i can found this book? It is from Alcides Sagarra, the trainer who made Teofilo Stevenson and Felix Savon 3 times olympic champions. The book name is : El Boxeo PDC in the Escuela Cubana ; PDC = Periodo Directo Competencia ( its on Spanish ) And on English its something like : Live Boxing Competition Period in the National School ; But i am not sure if its like that in English. This book is selling at Havana, Cuba but i cant find in internet where i can order it or something. Please i need help. I think there is things where he talk about cuban programs and trainings. I really need that cubans training, thear program and thinks like that.
Greetings!!! :boxing:
you gotta go to cuba to get yourself a copy i'm afraid matey...
that said i have a copy and it really isn't going to help you at all. its an excellent book but not usable for most people. don't sweat over it.
get the books by maykel - he's a good friend of mine and really knows whats what, his books are technical but very usable. he just got his phd certificate come through a couple of weeks back although he actually completed it a good time ago.
You think they got it over in Cuba?
The book exists; I saw it mentioned in several different websites. But there doesn't seem to be a copy for sale on the Internet. If one were so inclined, Cuba would be the first place to look. But even then, it's availability would depend on how many copies were printed. Unfortunately, the book must have had very limited production. Unless they get lucky, an interested party is going to have a tough time tracking down a copy.