Where does Mike Tyson rank on all-time best HW's list?

A young Tyson before Cus died easily makes top 10 HW's of all time..He was quicker than any HW as far as movement and his hand speed was there with a young Ali.

Which Tyson? The Cus D'Amato student who was managed by Jimmy Jacobs and business manager Mr. Cayton, handled by Teddy Atlas then Kevin Rooney. Or the Tyson handled by Don King and the rest of the waste!!! The young Mike Tyson who came to fight and kept his mouth shut could overwhelm just about anyone who wasn't mentally strong and physically prepared. A Mike who used his jab first with his steps in could surprise anyone with his overall speed! When he punched in combination first to see what lands .....then loads up he was devasting! The older, heavier Tyson who stepped in with his hook first and did alot of leaping and never used his jab would be handled by smart boxer who could step "off" or to the side and catch Tyson moving in unprotected! Or stand him off and punch "first" then back him up! As Evander did "on purpose"!! Theres TWO Tysons, the young humble, hunger kid from Brownsville, and the overated, over weight champ who's press conferences became all "bravado" and NO substance! The young one would be a top 15 contender!! The old bravado guy might be in the lower half of 40!! I'm not bashing Mike, I knew him, I helped Cus with him and was very sad to see all of the drama play out. But he had NO chance without Cus and Cus's team! NONE!!! Ray Corso

iron mike is in the top 20

Tyson at his peak (85-88) was top 5 All Time, imo. Overall?? Probably top 20. And from a social impact and pop culture standpoint...PPV draw, etc? Most definitely top 5 P4P ever. Ali, Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Pacquiao, in the last 50 years...in regards to popularity and box office draw.

That is one of the worst, if not the worst list I ever seen. Jesus CHrist your list sucks.Tell you what, post your list and I'll be more than happy to declare it the best list I've ever seen...

Tyson was hurt against Bruno in their first fight, big right hand at the end of the 3rd or 4th. Bruno didn't follow up but that was a prime Tyson ready to go. tbh this was no longer prime tyson, even though he was still extremly young etc etc he was not the same fighter anymore. Once he left rooney and went thru all the **** etc etc he lost the supreme brilliance. If you watch a couple of his earlier fights in quick succession and then go straight to the bruno fight you will see this - if you don't see it lol

tyson is an interesting case because although he lacked the longevity of other greats, on his best night spinks/holmes etc I wouldn't be surprised if he beat almost all of them.

Tyson was hurt against Bruno in their first fight, big right hand at the end of the 3rd or 4th. Bruno didn't follow up but that was a prime Tyson ready to go. Yes who can forget that moment? But it was a very small window of opportunity in 5 rounds of boxing for Bruno which he couldnt capitalize on. Tyson is very knowledgeable on the history of boxing, i wonder has anyone asked Tyson where he places himself....he seems more humble now. If you asked him when he was at his peak he would probably say no one can touch me?

Ability wise, he is candidate for the greatest, but if you are going to downgrade him for his actual resume he should be bordering top 10. How he beat who he beat must be taken into account and the reputation he had when he was prime. Didnt Douglas have a long count, and i dont think Tysons head was in the right place when he fought Douglas? He destroyed Frank Bruno 2 times and once when coming out of incarceration. Yes the same Bruno who nearly ko'ed Lennox Lewis. He beat Tyrell Biggs and tyrell said Tyson was just about the best he fought. And who did Tyrell fight again, yes that man Lennox Lewis. Tyson destroyed everyone, and that must count for something, and it does. Tyson was hurt against Bruno in their first fight, big right hand at the end of the 3rd or 4th. Bruno didn't follow up but that was a prime Tyson ready to go.

funny thing is i just hit my co worker with the question of "who is mike tysons best win" and he thought about it and said "damn thats a goos question" then i get on here n see this! he was great but... I know, I Tyson thread on a boxing forum. The rarest of things.

Could have been the greatest, but he never he a great career defining win (could be Don King's fault). The Mike Tyson all the way up to Spinks could have beat any heavyweight. After he fired his trainer and went to prison, he was never able to get back to his Catskill form. Top 5 skill, chin and heart for sure, but once he lost his bob and weave defense and became a head hunter, instead of hurting opponents to the body to set up the KO, he relied on his power punches too much (he missed a lot because of not using his jab and bob and weave to set up the shots). Ali Holmes Marciano Louis Foreman Too many to name have better resume than Tyson, but Tyson (86-88) would have probably KO'd most champs prime for prime, too bad we'll never know. He was the most exciting heavyweight in the last 30 years, maybe of all-time.

Everybody talks of him as being one of the greatest but I think he was/is overrated. His best win was, what, Spinks? who wasn't a true HW to begin with and was at the end of his career. He beat Holmes, but Holmes was way past his prime. Sure he looked good KOing 2nd rate or past their prime fighters, but every time he fought 1st rate opponents he lost(Holyfield, Lewis) and even Douglas exposed him. He was a controversial figure and a product of the Don King hype machine but i don't think he would make top 15 or even 20 on my list.We obviously and vehemently disagree... Louis Ali Tyson Holmes Marciano Johnson Foreman Frazier Liston Dempsey BTW, this topic is better located in/at the Boxing History forum :)

Top 15 imo.

Whilst i agree that resume should be one of the most important things to use when ranking a fighter, IMO Tyson was so extraordinary that even though his resume is nowhere near as good as it could/should have been, Tyson will always be ranked by me as one of the very best HW's of all time, most certainly in the top 15-20 IMO. Head to Head, Prime for Prime, Tyson will always be right at the very top. He had a short prime but one of the most dominant primes ever.

So it's alright to compare prime Tyson vs pre-prime Lewis? Lewis became a much better fighter than he was against Biggs and Bruno. . Yes you can argue that LL became better after beating bruno, and of course i take that into consideration, and i take into consideration Tyrell wasnt the same after losing to Tyson, and i do have LL above Tyson as i said. But Tyson still made mince meat of Bruno coming out of jail and Tyson surely wasnt in his prime when doing so.

As i said, prime Tyson's best wins are LHW Spinks at the end of his career and past his prime Holmes and that isn't much. Also, prime Tyson lost to Douglas by KO. He looked great against 2nd rate opposition and that's why people overrate him.

funny thing is i just hit my co worker with the question of "who is mike tysons best win" and he thought about it and said "damn thats a goos question" then i get on here n see this! he was great but...

Tyson has never lost to either Holyfield or Lennox Lewis. The fights didnt happen as Tyson went to prison if you forgot. Dont talk to me about past prime Tyson coming out of jail who wasnt what he was. Yes Lewis beat a old holyfield as well. So it's alright to compare prime Tyson vs pre-prime Lewis? Lewis became a much better fighter than he was against Biggs and Bruno.

You should know triangle theories don't work. Tyson lost to Holyfield but Lewis beat him quite easily. Tyson has never lost to either Holyfield or Lennox Lewis, theonly fight Tyson lost was the controversial one to Douglas, the long count one. The fights didnt happen as Tyson went to prison if you forgot. Dont talk to me about past prime Tyson coming out of jail who wasnt what he was. Yes Lewis beat a old holyfield as well. I have no problem with Lennox being above Tyson, but i dont think people can write Tysons career off totally. You got to talk about prime and in his prime Tyson is top 10 whatever you think of the resume.

Tyson doesn't rank very high, because he messed up his career early on. But, when comparing how he would have done prime for prime against other ATG HW champions, he ranks up there at the top with Muhammad Ali. No doubt about that.