The official judge was worse..... A guy named Jose Juan Guerra had it 118-110.....
Funny story, that guy was a replacement for a British judge who Hagler complained about and had replaced (I believe it was because of the Antuofermo robbery at the hands of British judges?)
Said judge watched the fight at home and scored it in Hagler's favour.
This is the reason people thought the fix was in. Seems nothing Hagler could have done would have won him the fight unless he got him out of there.
This has now translated through time as Hagler clearly beating Leonard which isn't true.
Although, I scored it for Hagler.
You remember your score???
The official judge was worse..... A guy named Jose Juan Guerra had it 118-110.....
This is the reason people thought the fix was in. Seems nothing Hagler could have done would have won him the fight unless he got him out of there.
This has now translated through time as Hagler clearly beating Leonard which isn't true.
Although, I scored it for Hagler.
How in the hell can anyone score Leonard-Hagler so f***ing wide for Leonard!? What the f***?
The official judge was worse..... A guy named Jose Juan Guerra had it 118-110.....
Leonard beat all 3 of them and Duran lost to all 3 but was the only 1 to beat Leonard
Leonard
Hagler
Hearns
Duran
everyone who voted duran as their last in the list are all entitled to their own opinion. but TS refers to level of greatness here which means body of work throughout their careers, not just who beat who in the fab 4. and also they dont belong to just one weight class.
I honestly wasnt able to witness their era and I only coped up with replayed fights and videos but still I can say Duran was the best among the four. followed with leonard ofcourse. and I have a tie between hearns and hagler.
Unofficial AP scorecard: 144-141 Duran
Unofficial New York Times scorecard: 144-142 Leonard
Associated Press: 117-112 Hagler
Baltimore Sun: 7-5 in rounds Leonard
Boston Globe: 117-111 Leonard
Boston Herald 116-113 Leonard
Chicago Sun-Times: 115-114 Hagler
Chicago Tribune: 7-5 in rounds Hagler
HBO, Harold Lederman: 115-113 Leonard
Houston Chronicle: 115-114 Leonard
KO Magazine: 118-111 Leonard
New York Daily News: 117-111 Leonard
New York Post: 114-114
New York Times: 114-114
Newsday: 115-114 Hagler
Oakland Tribune: 117-112 Leonard
The Ring magazine: 115-113 Leonard
San Jose Mercury-News: 116-115 Hagler
Washington Post: 114-114
These are the scorecards I could find for both fights from the press/media.... Draw from it what you will but both fights were close..... Both have dissenting cards so this clearly you continue to speak of.?.?.? Obviously not everyone agrees with you
How in the hell can anyone score Leonard-Hagler so f***ing wide for Leonard!? What the f***?
People always tend to say incredibly stupid things about Duran in threads like this. I'm tempted to read through and see some of it.
1. Duran
2. Leonard
3. Hagler
4. Hearns
People ranking Duran last? :pat:
Dear Lord.it's really sad that people don't take some time to at least try to learn some of the great history of this sport.
1. Duran
2. Leonard
3. Hearns
4. Hagler
Guys, I like Hagler more than Hearns but I don't see why Marvin is usually ranked above Tommy.
First guy to win titles at 4 weight classes, also the first to win 5, nearly beat Leonard, KO'd Duran, arguably best ever at 154, better longevity etc
So it was just a simple misunderstanding based off of MJ's typo on Moorer's last name.
Weird how leaving one letter off of a guy's name can completely change an entire post. :lol1:
I see you were ready :lol1:..... My mistake
13y ago
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