I think his next move is very critical not only to how I perceive him, but his next move could map out what the rest of his career could look like.
yah eventhough i understand it would make more sense money wise to choose cotto, i feel that if canelo wants to show he's not a complete hypejob and that he is deserving of being considered a world champ he needs to start facing/beating legitimate challenges. fighting cotto imo will hurt canelo's reputation even more...it will of course help fatten up his wallet and his ego if he wins, but it'll do nothing to make guys like me see him as a legit champ and not a hypejob.
canelo's joke resume continues to grow........
I think his next move is very critical not only to how I perceive him, but his next move could map out what the rest of his career could look like.
that sounds like a good plan. i just want to see alvarez/martinez cause it's a beneficial fight for both. if martinez wins, he becomes a legit opponent for mayweather (both titleholders at 154). alvarez losing would just mean he wasn't ready for someone like martinez, and he lost to a better fighter. if alvarez wins, he proves himself to be the real deal and truly would become a ppv star like gbp is doing. if martinez loses, at least he got that big payday he was looking for.
Alvarez beating Martinez doesn't mean as much because we don't know how Sergio's body will react to making 154. It's kinda like Ward/Dawson; the "what-if" is in place before they even step into the ring. It's a mistake to build one's career around making one specific fight happen, and Mayweather is so erratic, that I think Guerrero/Canelo/Martinez should be careful and make their decisions wisely. I mean, look at the position Canelo is in. He's being hyped up for Mayweather to chop down, how pathetic is that? Floyd should be left to languish and disappear.
Don't know why this would surprise anyone. Golden Boy is every bit as reprehensible as Top Rank, ESPECIALLY with Saul Alvarez.
Cotto coming off two losses? That's exactly the type of fight they would like to continue this hypejob's bullsh** career.
The sad part is, some fans are already completely sold on Canelo and saying he's the real deal.
Ability wise I think he's the real deal but I'll stop sayin it until he proves it in the ring against an elite opponent.
Well, the Martinez fight is already announced so it's not going to happen next at least. With the rumors that Floyd is planning on staying at 147, the upside is that Martinez would be Canelo's only real chance for a big PPV fight so that's more likely now. I'm hoping Chavez Jr loses his next fight so the Canelo-Martinez fight can be made instead in September.
yeah, that's what i was trying to say. alvarez most likely isn't getting mayweather in may, so he can fight someone like cotto or another 154 lber. martinez takes care of murray, and we can get the possibility of martinez/alvarez in september. that would be perfect. not sure who chavez is going to fight before september, some were saying macklin. i think he's got a good shot at beating macklin. chavez just has a serious size advantage over everyone at 160.
After seeing Guzman break down physically and the fact that Canelo seems to be a bad omen, I think Martinez should forget about moving to LMW. He should fight Murray, then Geale, and then Chavez Jr. if he's still relevant by that time.
that sounds like a good plan. i just want to see alvarez/martinez cause it's a beneficial fight for both. if martinez wins, he becomes a legit opponent for mayweather (both titleholders at 154). alvarez losing would just mean he wasn't ready for someone like martinez, and he lost to a better fighter. if alvarez wins, he proves himself to be the real deal and truly would become a ppv star like gbp is doing. if martinez loses, at least he got that big payday he was looking for.
Well, the Martinez fight is already announced so it's not going to happen next at least. With the rumors that Floyd is planning on staying at 147, the upside is that Martinez would be Canelo's only real chance for a big PPV fight so that's more likely now. I'm hoping Chavez Jr loses his next fight so the Canelo-Martinez fight can be made instead in September.
After seeing Guzman break down physically and the fact that Canelo seems to be a bad omen, I think Martinez should forget about moving to LMW. He should fight Murray, then Geale, and then Chavez Jr. if he's still relevant by that time.
Why is Trout a good enough opponent for Cotto, an established star and future hall of famer, but not good enough Canelo? Does Canelo thinks he's above Cotto?
He's already been handed the GBP throne, so why should he not feel entitled? Canelo is wielding the type of authority that's usually associated with guys who've made it to the top. Schaefer said that it's not up to him.
his promoters know they have a money making name with alvarez in their hands. a loss now days can really set a fighter back. if they're going to risk him, they're going to put him up against someone who can also sell. they're plan was cotto then mayweather. i guess it's mayweather now. i hope mayweather chooses guerrero instead though, then it make way for alvarez to negotiate with martinez. :D one can dream right...they can play the "martinez defeated mexico's other future star, it's time to avenge that" card.
Well, the Martinez fight is already announced so it's not going to happen next at least. With the rumors that Floyd is planning on staying at 147, the upside is that Martinez would be Canelo's only real chance for a big PPV fight so that's more likely now. I'm hoping Chavez Jr loses his next fight so the Canelo-Martinez fight can be made instead in September.
Why is Trout a good enough opponent for Cotto, an established star and future hall of famer, but not good enough Canelo? Does Canelo thinks he's above Cotto?
his promoters know they have a money making name with alvarez in their hands. a loss now days can really set a fighter back. if they're going to risk him, they're going to put him up against someone who can also sell. they're plan was cotto then mayweather. i guess it's mayweather now. i hope mayweather chooses guerrero instead though, then it make way for alvarez to negotiate with martinez. :D one can dream right...they can play the "martinez defeated mexico's other future star, it's time to avenge that" card.
Why is Trout a good enough opponent for Cotto, an established star and future hall of famer, but not good enough Canelo? Does Canelo thinks he's above Cotto?
This is bull****.
If they want to make this fight they need to do Canelo-Trout and Cotto-Kirkland or similar and hope for the preferred outcome.
It's a big fight so i get why they want it, especially with the PR/Mexico angle, but they shouldve done so instead of the Cotto-Trout fight. Now it's too late.
I agree with this post here, this is actually a great idea and then if both Canelo and Cotto pull off the win they can then have a fight on PPV if they want, But to just make Canelo-Cotto now is disgusting.
So it's okay for Danny Garcia to fight a past prime Morales and Judah but it's not okay for Canelo to fight Cotto?
You guys are so inconsistent. **** you guys, make the fight happen.
Morales had a competitive fight with Maidana, beat Cano for the WBC belt and then Garcia beat him. He then goes on to starch Khan, and fought Morales again because of a rematch clause. Judah won his last fight and will be the first southpaw that Garcia has fought, so it's not nearly as horrible as it's being made out to be. Garcia has not built a reputation for consistently fighting smaller/older/faded fighters like Canelo has, which is why it's frustrating that fans would still justify a fight with Cotto after he just got beat. That doesn't seem fucked up to you? I'm not even saying that Canelo/Cotto is a bad match-up, but it doesn't make any sense given the current situation.
this fight will not happen it would make no sense and i dont think it can even generate that much money anymore
Canelo and Cotto have more dick-riders and nationalistic die-hards than some fighters have fans. The fight would still sell.