If Judah beats Garcia and becomes lineal champ at 140 against all odds

how the hell would he be Lineal Champ? :lol1: the ring magazine title doesn't = Lineal Champ

No way, he has been on the decline for a while, Garcia could retire Zab.

I don't know but hes got more than 9 lives

Because Ward doesn't have many great wins so I was using him as the bar. Judah doesn't have many great wins either so....if Ward was in Judah should go in. Judahs career>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wards career Ward is only know for being a rock em sock em robot with Gatti

Why even bring up Ward? Because Ward doesn't have many great wins so I was using him as the bar. Judah doesn't have many great wins either so....if Ward was in Judah should go in.

He beat a prime Junior Witter for a world title in the UK too. He's got some good wins. As a non-American I don't care about HOFs but for those that do I don't think beating Garcia would get him in. Maybe if he followed up by beating Bradley or someone... good post...............

I was asking if Ward was in because I wanted to know........If Ward.........was in. That was really it. Why even bring up Ward?

u asked was Ward in..........Judah dominated Ward...you did know that right I was asking if Ward was in because I wanted to know........If Ward.........was in. That was really it.

He is a 5 time world champion 3 time champ at 140 and former lineal champ at 147...............and he beat Ward since you ask He beat a prime Junior Witter for a world title in the UK too. He's got some good wins. As a non-American I don't care about HOFs but for those that do I don't think beating Garcia would get him in. Maybe if he followed up by beating Bradley or someone...

When someone asks "who did they beat" and you go on and list how many titles and accolades they have, you are acknowledging that he hasn't beaten anyone. u asked was Ward in..........Judah dominated Ward...you did know that right

He is a 5 time world champion 3 time champ at 140 and former lineal champ at 147...............and he beat Ward since you ask When someone asks "who did they beat" and you go on and list how many titles and accolades they have, you are acknowledging that he hasn't beaten anyone.

Who has Judah beat besides Spinks? He is a 5 time world champion 3 time champ at 140 and former lineal champ at 147...............and he beat Ward since you ask

Just give up your hopes of Judah becoming anything remotely relevant again. Everytime he's fighting it's these "what if?". The problem is those things NEVER happens. He's a god damn quitter.

what has Ward EVER been the champion of? who has he beat other then Gatti? Who has Judah beat besides Spinks?

Is Micky Ward in the hall of fame? what has Ward EVER been the champion of? who has he beat other then Gatti?

losing to baldomir is that bad. it's the worst thing ever. Baldomir isn't that bad, especially for a worst loss but when you consider how poorly he performed in his bigger fights, you can't catch loses like that.

Garcia isn't good enough to erase all the times Judah fell short~ if we are talking hypothetical he would have to beat Garcia then go on a run to have any sort of hope but there is no chance Judah could put together that type of run (like 4 more wins as good or better than Garcia beyond actually beating Garcia) at this point in his career. Loser is a good way to describe him, he is good enough to get a shot and even his worst loss isn't that bad but pretty much every time he stepped up he found a way to fall short. A guy who finds a way to lose is a loser~ losing to baldomir is that bad. it's the worst thing ever.

I agree but my beef is that some feel make it sound like you have to win EVERY big fight of your career to be a HOFer. Or that's how it sounded to me at least. You don't but you have to come through at least half the time, Judah is batting below .200 if we are talking his biggest fights.

Is Micky Ward in the hall of fame?

Garcia isn't good enough to erase all the times Judah fell short~ I agree but my beef is that some feel make it sound like you have to win EVERY big fight of your career to be a HOFer. Or that's how it sounded to me at least.