Kelly Pavlik vs. Andre Ward - Who Wins If Ref Doesn't Allow Too Much Clinching?

Ward might go life and death with Pavlik

It'll be like Hopkins - Pavlik... but Ward might be able to force a stoppage. Pavlik's declined, and Ward's too good in every way possible for him.

Remember when pavlik was a beast now all of a sudden he's 1 dimensional hahaha ward obviously wins but it won't be as easy as the Dawson fight

ok thanks bojangles...sometimes a fighters like ward every once in a while underestimate a guy, and strange things happen...they wind up fighting harder than anticipated...like when sugar ray leonard, got put down on the canvas against kevin howard, and roy jones got put on the canvas against lou del valle...never did like kelly pavlik above 160, but hey at least he has experience against top opposition...just trying to figure out why is ward fighting pavlik anyway...lol pavlik does have a punchers chance, plus he's barely 30 yrs of age so pavlik is not old or anything. the odds should be closer to 3-1 ward being the favorite

He's been down, and he did fight Miranda and take his punches, so I don't think Pavlik brings anything from a power standpoint that Ward's never faced before. Even if he can put Ward down with a well placed shot, Ward would just get up and get back to kicking Pavlik's ass. ok thanks bojangles...sometimes a fighters like ward every once in a while underestimate a guy, and strange things happen...they wind up fighting harder than anticipated...like when sugar ray leonard, got put down on the canvas against kevin howard, and roy jones got put on the canvas against lou del valle...never did like kelly pavlik above 160, but hey at least he has experience against top opposition...just trying to figure out why is ward fighting pavlik anyway...lol

Yes. He should just double the ****ing jab! lol yep double the jab Jack Loew style

Pavlik best chance of winning is to take away one of Ward's strengths inside fighting he has to on the outside and control with the jab the gameplan should be jab jab and jab Yes. He should just double the ****ing jab!

Pavlik best chance of winning is to take away one of Ward's strengths inside fighting he has to on the outside and control with the jab the gameplan should be jab jab and jab

LOL @ "clinching". Ward wins with one arm tied behind his back

It's in jOakland so there's little reason to think that the ref wont favour Ward. And even if the referee would break them up quickly I cannot see Pavlik having more than a longshot punchers chance. It's been many years since Pavlik gave a performance that could give him some hope, and since then his toughest fight has been a bottle probably just outscoring a staphinfection.

Ward probably wins a ud. but Pavlik could win by KO. Pavlik has real power in both hands with the straight right being the best punch. Kelley also has the reach and a great jab so he has a chance. When Kelly hurts a guy he goes after them hard and he is a good finisher.

has ward's chin been cracked yet?...this is one of those fights where ward could fight down to the level of his opponent, and it gets weird...besides that, ward decision in true clutch, clinch, and headbutt style.... He's been down, and he did fight Miranda and take his punches, so I don't think Pavlik brings anything from a power standpoint that Ward's never faced before. Even if he can put Ward down with a well placed shot, Ward would just get up and get back to kicking Pavlik's ass.

Ward has not been clinching and fighting ugly nearly as much in his last two fights. He basically destroyed Dawson outside. Pavlik's basic attack will not win him this fight, and he'll be hard pressed to make it competitive.

If I remember correctly I think Bika chin-checked Ward. That said, Not only will Pavlik not win a single round. He might get stopped outright. I can see the ref putting an end to this fight. Promoter is cashing out IMO. This guy is coming off of rehab with a handful of unimpressive wins and now they decide to throw him in with a P4P fighter? Makes no sense.

Minus a fluke punch from Pavlik, I think he's gonna be completely outclassed. I'd love for a Pavlik KO though Yea... Idk how much power Pavlik still possesses but that's all he has in this fight really, a punchers chance. Slim chance but hard to count a puncher out. Especially vs someone who's been down before. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Was this supposed to be a serious thread?

has ward's chin been cracked yet?...this is one of those fights where ward could fight down to the level of his opponent, and it gets weird...besides that, ward decision in true clutch, clinch, and headbutt style....

Ward doesn't lose a round. Pavlik gets schooled.

Inside, Outside, maybe even Blindfolded LOL Ward beats Pavilk anyway he wants, I think he stops him as well

Minus a fluke punch from Pavlik, I think he's gonna be completely outclassed. I'd love for a Pavlik KO though