I just heard an angry fan on a radio show suggesting that the fight would have played out totally different if a respected ref like Kenny Bayless was at the helm. The referee didn't do a flawless job in the fight, and of course Berto made a point to complain about him in the post-fight interview. With a better ref, would the outcome of the fight be the same or different?
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I don't care that it only has two votes, let it be known I'm one of them: I think the fight would be totally different with a different referee. That holding and hitting sh*t that caused the first knockdown also changed the trajectory of the fight. Anyone but a blind ref would have seen that and put a stop to it immediately. It was a domino effect because it also lead to punishment and a second KD in round two, and before long Berto couldn't see clearly even after he recovered. Berto had The Ghost frustrated in the first round which is why he pulled that stunt in the first place. I don't believe the rematch would be fought in the trenches the same way.
The referee tarnished the fight being fair. And some are underestimating just how much a knockdown can change things. That really took Berto out of his game right away. Guerrero might've still won though, but not in this fashion. Would've been that much closer of a fight.
I don't care that it only has two votes, let it be known I'm one of them: I think the fight would be totally different with a different referee. That holding and hitting sh*t that caused the first knockdown also changed the trajectory of the fight. Anyone but a blind ref would have seen that and put a stop to it immediately. It was a domino effect because it also lead to punishment and a second KD in round two, and before long Berto couldn't see clearly even after he recovered. Berto had The Ghost frustrated in the first round which is why he pulled that stunt in the first place. I don't believe the rematch would be fought in the trenches the same way.
I think the Berto we saw last night was a better version than the one who lost to Ortiz. He was well prepared mentally and physically, but he was completely surprised by Robert's game plan. I can't remember anyone predicting the Ghost would take the fight to Berto and fight him phone both style.
I was there live close up and if anything berto deserved to lose points for all the horrible punches that he through to the back of the head of Guerrero.
why do you assume that fan is a fan of mayweather?To him it's Mexicans against blacks, and it shouldn't be. Margarito took criticism and beatings that this clown has never gotten over. He has to blow these wins up. It's been a no contest historically.
You were the one who said there was no way Guerrero could hurt or drop Berto. Want to revisit that statement and admit Guerrero surprised you.
Berto was never hurt.
Angry fan? He should of been angry when Berto got caught taking steroids. Since a lot of those guys are the same ones supporting Mayweather in cleaning the sport and accusing Pac of steroids.
why do you assume that fan is a fan of mayweather?
I love it when Boxer or some fans blame a ref for a fighters losing or contribute to a fighter losing, Berto lost period deal with it.. Stupid fans, Especially a fighter who was caught with drugs in his system.
Berto has no inside game which is why he's always roughed up on the inside. Those of you who say that Broner applies Floyds shoulder roll are totally mistaken. Berto showed you that you can't apply any defensive style and that it will work. Berto takes good body shots which is why I don't understand why he gets roughed up when he doesn't have to on the inside.
Berto is just not that good and Guerrero is not that much better if he is. Berto was held, hit low and butted, but none of it was on purpose. It was a brutal fight. Berto got hit right on the eye, and the other closed from a butt and punches. Guerrero deserves credit for showing a superb chin, and forcing the fight. Both came out looking bad and worse...but both finished the fight.
the ref gave guerrero a significant advantage in the fight for sure but its not the reason he won. he won bcuz hes better at positioning himself on the inside, has a higher workrate and a better chin. still there is no denying the ref did a terrible job.
can you please explain how the ref helped Guerrero?? you guys need to stop listening to the HBO dumbf*cks. Berto was initiating 90 % of the clinches and hitting Guerrero at the back of the head a billion times. If anybody should have been warned or disqualified, it would have been Berto.
It's hard to deny that the ref did a terrible job.You were the one who said there was no way Guerrero could hurt or drop Berto. Want to revisit that statement and admit Guerrero surprised you.
A better ref would have DQed Berto for his egregious hitting behind the head.
berto probably would have lost a point for holding like he did in his fight with collazo
berto corner was screaming at him to stop holding last night
the ref gave guerrero a significant advantage in the fight for sure but its not the reason he won. he won bcuz hes better at positioning himself on the inside, has a higher workrate and a better chin. still there is no denying the ref did a terrible job.
A better ref would have DQed Berto for his egregious hitting behind the head.
i didn;t think there was anything wrong with his right hand up top on the inside. guerrero was ducking away and turning his head, which is not professional.
still, even with that punch, guerrero was eating him up inside with the cleaner work. berto landed bigger shots, but the balance of the rounds early on were clearly won on guerrero's inside work.
nope, but the fight might look a bit different
the ghost outclassed him. he hurt him. berto couldnt return the favor. no ref is going to turn that around.
I just heard an angry fan on a radio show suggesting that the fight would have played out totally different if a respected ref like Kenny Bayless was at the helm. The referee didn't do a flawless job in the fight, and of course Berto made a point to complain about him in the post-fight interview. Would a better ref, would the outcome of the fight be the same or different?
A better ref would have DQed Berto for his egregious hitting behind the head.