Will froch go down as a all time great...

He keeps fighting good fighters in his weight class and beating them he will be on his way there.

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about as much of an atg as Glen Johnson

Honestly, I already think Froch ranks high in the British atg. Great resume & ducks nobody.

If he beats Ward, yes

If he did that I think he would. I think he loses both of those fights on neutral ground.

Wow. You are right. Can you think of ANY ATG that have avenged all their defeats? It takes a special special fighter to avenge all his defeats. I'm trying to think of who actually did such a feat. Carlos Monzon and Gene Tunney.

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" HYPOTHETICAL ANSWER TO AN HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION" I like Froch, and he's on the HOF route, but if guys considered him to be an ATG. i'll give you an example. than you have to considered fighters like cotto, whom resume is better than frochs and dawson whom has 2 HOF "Tarver/Bhop and 1 ATG "Bhop" on his resume. All the fighters that are considered ATG has other ATg on their resume and has signature wins. Dawson beat an ATG in BHOP, i know BHop is considered old, but he will beat all the guys whom are not superior in athleticism/boxing craft to him and not name Dawson and Ward. Taver is going to the HOF based off his shocking KO of the the unbeatable RJJ, also unifying the light heavy weight titles. Like i said if froch is a HOF than Cotto is. Now the Vlad really doesn't have any signature wins, but he has dominated his division for almost 10 yrs now. i know guys are going to say his division sucks, might be true. But Vlad is dominating the bums like he is suppose too. Froch hasn't dominated a division, nor has he been the man of his division. Also if you look @ his resume he has 1 sure lock potential HOF'r on his resume and that's Ward whom outclassed him. 1 quick note guys say he beat Dirrell i can see why you say he did, but i chose dirrell. now guys say dirrell was running, well HOF'r and ATG know how to cut the ring off and get rid of the guy or at least dominate a young untested Dirrell , and not resort to dirty tactics. i'll give an example Moreno vs Mares. Moreno is pure slick boxer, but a young Mares knew how to cut the ring off and step/punch with moreno. If you want to say froch is one Great Britain's ATG go ahead, but overall ATG and HOF'r is pushing it.

Haha it's all opinions mate. I had Froch beating Kessler by a round, and i also had him as the close winner against Dirrell. There's no way Dirrell did enough that night to walk away with Froch's belt. The only guy who has clearly outclassed him was Ward, who IMO is the future, if not already p4p #1. i wouldnt have complained if the froch kessler fight went either way. i dont buy the didnt do enough to take the belt stuff, you could say froch didnt do enough to keep the belt aswell.

hahaha. it is what it is. people over rate froch just because he will fight anybody anywhere, and then ignore what he has actually done! Haha it's all opinions mate. I had Froch beating Kessler by a round, and i also had him as the close winner against Dirrell. There's no way Dirrell did enough that night to walk away with Froch's belt. The only guy who has clearly outclassed him was Ward, who IMO is the future, if not already p4p #1.

Oi Frank, stop posting under an alias. hahaha. it is what it is. people over rate froch just because he will fight anybody anywhere, and then ignore what he has actually done!

Go through his results, they are not as great as people make out. Lost his biggest fight, hasn't beaten any hall of fame fighters, who is his best win? He couldn't even beat dirrell. He gets credit for being willing to fight the best. That's it. Oi Frank, stop posting under an alias.

if he beats Ward & Kessler on top of the resume he already has...he's definitely in the running to be call an atg. so yes, haters gonna hate. No way, delusional if you think he can be called an atg. What's next? You gonna put Hatton in if he beat Mayweather and PAC? No chance!

I hate idiots who dismiss boxers just because they don't look 'technically sound'. I judge a boxer off his results, dunno about you.... Go through his results, they are not as great as people make out. Lost his biggest fight, hasn't beaten any hall of fame fighters, who is his best win? He couldn't even beat dirrell. He gets credit for being willing to fight the best. That's it.

Typical response. I don't even hate froch. I hate idiots that try to say froch is in some way an atg. Back to reality... if he beats Ward & Kessler on top of the resume he already has...he's definitely in the running to be call an atg. so yes, haters gonna hate.

No chance. Carl froch is technically poor to say the least. Some people ask stupid questions. Technical skills have absolutely nothing to do with getting into the HOF or an ATG list. Sheer will, toughness, longevity and the ability to apply those skills at a top level have gotten many peeps in the ATG list.

Typical response. I don't even hate froch. I hate idiots that try to say froch is in some way an atg. Back to reality... I hate idiots who dismiss boxers just because they don't look 'technically sound'. I judge a boxer off his results, dunno about you....

Good post mate, i agree with every word. Ward should come to England, it would help towards his legacy as an ATG if he beats up Froch in front of his home fans, something that nobody has done so far. Imagine the props he would get if he knocked out the Cobra in Nottingham? I don't think that would happen though, wide points victory is more likely. I think Ward is a great fighter, just quite boring, but if he came to Nottingham and knocked Froch out in front of 30,000 fans then he will have made a statement that he could only make fighting away from home and the media coverage and press he would get, aside of all the respect from peers would do wonders for his career and legcay

Yes. Froch for me is already a top-10 all-time super-middleweight, beat Kessler and Ward and he'd be P4P top 5 and an all-time-great. Whether it happens is another thing. I think he's a favourite to beat Kessler, but not Ward. The good thing is that Froch will always want to fight the best.