He was lucky enough to come up in a era where all the good fighters were on their way out. Oba Carr, Jose Luis Lopez, Quartey, Trinidad, De La Hoya. Personally I think a young DLH and Trinidad would have took his head off. And Quartey would of jabbed him to death and made it look easy.
I think prime DLH would have KO'd Pac and Mayweather.
I dont get why people say these things cos realistically
Why would floyd or pac fight at WW if it isnt their true weight division
They have only moved up in weight classes for accomplishment and bigger pay days
If those dominant fighters in at the WW division i dont think they would have stepped up to the challenge as it would be a big disadvantage to them
Tito couldn't even knock out a coked up, 35 year old past prime Whitaker coming off a year and a half layoff. But somehow he automatically KO's Floyd, one of the best defensive fighters of all time?
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Floyd gets his head knocked off by Tito, decisioned by IKE, and goes life and death with De La Hoya.
Tito couldn't even knock out a coked up, 35 year old past prime Whitaker coming off a year and a half layoff. But somehow he automatically KO's Floyd, one of the best defensive fighters of all time?
If Floyd fought in the 90's, he would have been much higher on the ATG List but with more losses (probably 2-3) he would have been regarded as one of the very best. (On par with Leonard or close to it)
The reason being, there was no way Floyd can be the cash cow in a 90's era dominated by Mike Tyson and the other Heavyweight stars. Floyd would not have been the face of boxing, he would have been just 'one of the lightweights' which would have forced him to fight everyone for a pay day.
Floyd would have ducked no one. Why? Floyd won't be making that much money, he can't afford to duck no one if he was fighting in the 90's.
Instead Floyd would have fought everyone and beaten the vast majority of them. Trilogies with Pernell, Chavez SR, a couple fights with Tito and Oscar(he'll probably get robbed in a few)
People today will be like 'Remember that guy who fought on the Tyson undercards? He was something special"
You know when Tyson went to jail it was Julio Ceaser Chavez who became the face of boxing for a while, a welterweight. I'm pretty frigging sure they would have loved someone like Mayweather to have been around.
Cotto
Mosley
JMM
Hatton
Oscar
Baldomir
Judah
Gatti
Coralles
Castillio
Genaro Hernandez
Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Show me one other fighter who has fought names like these and not only made it look easy but remained undefeated doing so? The 90s era would not touch Floyd.
If Floyd fought in the 90's, he would have been much higher on the ATG List but with more losses (probably 2-3) he would have been regarded as one of the very best. (On par with Leonard or close to it)
The reason being, there was no way Floyd can be the cash cow in a 90's era dominated by Mike Tyson and the other Heavyweight stars. Floyd would not have been the face of boxing, he would have been just 'one of the lightweights' which would have forced him to fight everyone for a pay day.
Floyd would have ducked no one. Why? Floyd won't be making that much money, he can't afford to duck no one if he was fighting in the 90's.
Instead Floyd would have fought everyone and beaten the vast majority of them. Trilogies with Pernell, Chavez SR, a couple fights with Tito and Oscar(he'll probably get robbed in a few)
People today will be like 'Remember that guy who fought on the Tyson undercards? He was something special"
Similar to what I'm saying about Floyd in the 80s, the era of the "Fab Four".
i guess u could say he might have fought one of them or all of them
but for me i cant imagine him fighting them when those guys were hot
cant change the fact that floyd is floyd
people imagining floyd fighting those guys in their best era is like imagining floyd as the fearless hulk
cant change the faq that he is a health comes first type of fighter b4 money
so to imagine him on any era i can imagine him taking a nice vacation while those guys are hot then comes back and fight them when the flame stops
the TS is asking everyone to put the "same floyd" in a different era not a fearless version type of floyd which he is not :(
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I see what you're saying, but it's a lot easier to say, "Health before money," when you're swimming in cash. lol
My point is simply that that was a different era and Mayweather would've been subject to the times just like the greats that came before him. I don't think he could've been a star without following suit.
I think he would be tough for anyone, I think Oscar would have bested him in his prime, close though. Sweet Pea would have beaten him pretty convincingly although on points. I could see him having problems with Quartey, but I think thats a pick em.
oh thought 90's is 80's lol but my answer will be the same though
floyd would be undefeated in any era
if hes health comes first fighter now, he'd be more health comes first in the past :lol1:
i know it hurts u larry but facts usually hurt
so its expected :(
hurt me?all i said was you had the wrong fighters in the wrong era
He'd come out on top. Forrest, De La Hoya, and Whitaker would have a chance at winning close, but I wouldn't favor any of them. I can't see Trinidad or Quartey beating him.
it was easy for him to be a cash cow fighting old or green fighters while avoiding threats like pac it will be the same as for him for the past
with his bunch of turd fanatics dreaming he woulda coulda knockout those guys anyway, why fight them?
i think he'll probably fought them after those guys are done and past prime
its his mouth that creates the cash, so if he had the same mouth hed be the same cash cow as he is now while avoiding risk
In your scenario, you're presupposing that Mayweather is a star before Duran, Leonard and Hearns. In that case, I doubt he could avoid all three while they were all in the same division. Floyd would look ridiculous, as it would be pretty clear he's ducking all threats. He would make no money fighting inferior opposition, when the fans could choose from three other stars that are, indeed, fighting each other. How much of a superstar could Mayweather be while Duran and Leonard are eclipsing him with their legendary rivalry?
On the other hand, if we assume Floyd came just after them, he would be the one begging for a fight. He would be the one desperate for a shot at stardom. In either case, Mayweather, in my opinion, would've had to fight one, two or all three ATGs.
what makes u think he'll fight a more dangerous fighters in SRL, DURAN, HEARNS?
you think he'll rather fight those guys than pac?
shoot if i was him health comes first minded guy ill take pac any day vs taking one of this guys (SRL, DURAN, HEARNS)
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I believe I told you why I think so in my original post. lol I don't know how to make it any clearer, but I think "Dr Rumack" is on the right track:
The difference would have been that it would be much more difficult to not face those guys and still make huge money. Floyd and Pacquiao could not fight each other and still earn massive sums. If guys like Duran, SRL, and Hearns were also on the market then that would not be the case. Their talents would not be as rare.
I just think that, bottom line, there was a different zeitgeist, a different way of doing things back then. I don't think Floyd would've been able to, or even wanted to, go his own way.
what makes u think he'll fight a more dangerous fighters in SRL, DURAN, HEARNS?
you think he'll rather fight those guys than pac?
shoot if i was him health comes first minded guy ill take pac any day vs taking one of this guys (SRL, DURAN, HEARNS)
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The difference would have been that it would be much more difficult to not face those guys and still make huge money. Floyd and Pacquiao could not fight each other and still earn massive sums. If guys like Duran, SRL, and Hearns were also on the market then that would not be the case. Their talents would not be as rare.
He would have been a top fighter no doubt, but he probably would have picked a loss up on the way.
Trinidad wouldn't have been his hardest fight, Hopkins picked Trinidad apart and while Hopkins is much bigger Floyd's boxing ability is up there. Oscar and Quartey would have been hard, Quarteys jab was so good and Floyd hasn't really faced an elite fighter with a great jab, Oscar managed to make it reasonably close in their fight and a younger Oscar would have done better. Sugar Shane was a different fighter when he was young as well, not looking for the KO as much and working combinations much better. One of those three IMO would have been very tough fights.
But I have no doubt he would have been up there as one of the very best.
health comes first
possibly undefeated also because of ducking SRL, duran, hearns
If Mayweather fought in the era of the "Fab Four," he would've had to fight some of them. It was a different time. Floyd wouldn't have wanted to be left out of the loop. Also, Mayweather probably would've had to get past a couple of them to become a star and have to ability to duck (if that's what you believe he does) in the first place.
Like him or NOT...Mayweather is talented and skilled enough to do good in ANY ERA IMO...his father and uncle had some success before him and with their styles and Mayweather is way more talented then his father and uncle as far as just pure RAW TALENT like Speed, Reflexes, Footwork, Hand Speed, also smarter then both in the ring
so like him or Not, I think Mayweather does well in most Era's before him especially PRIME Floyd the one before the hand problems that was fighting at 130-135
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