Is Marquez on steroids for this Pacquiao fight?

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I hope hes juicing as I type. Dont stop.

What I find hilarious is the PAC fans screaming that JMM is suspect because he is 40 and looks bigger and stronger Yet PAC has gone from 118 to 147 and he too has gotten bigger and stronger and he is knocking fools out but they don't suspect anything In their heads manny is just that good! Bwahahahhaja LOL. JMM is suspect because he is nearing 40 and looks bigger and stronger. Im supposed to believe that a country who doesn't even have a decent amateur boxing program, hasn't had a WW Champ or even Jr WW champ since the 60's now produces a WW champ who is also a highly ranked P4P entrant? These things didn't happen before the steroid age. Why are they happening now? And why is Manny always fighting to avoid advanced testing? Oh, and if its not PEDs, where are the rest of the countries top WW's that they are producing now?? :firedevil JMM just repaying the favor. Let the commission do its job.:boxing:

Great do it all round, better testing than no testing at all.. When we can't even get Some fighters to do testing during an eight week period, so good luck trying to get them to test all year round, Am all for it though. This is the funniest part. Some cats say but but but you have to do all year testing etc etc etc. Yet some fighters WON'T even do 8 weeks and suggest that the commission is doing a wonderful job and the way we have always done testing is the best way. The irony in this thread is staggering. Yes, let's do all year around testing, but first lets get these cats on board to at least do 8 weeks. Baby steps, especially for the pac who's scared to death of needles and blood, states Bob Arum who speaks the truth because he said he's been trying to make the Mayweather fight. :boxing:

I'm juiced for this fight :usa2:

Not really that simple. You can use anabolic steroids for eight weeks or so to build muscle, a long time in advance of a fight, and then do your official training camp clean. As others have said, the only thing that gives you a good chance of keeping a sport clean is having out of competition testing in place, i.e. athletes being available for testing 24/7/365. Great do it all round, better testing than no testing at all.. When we can't even get Some fighters to do testing during an eight week period, so good luck trying to get them to test all year round, Am all for it though.

Pac has had 6 or 7 fights since the PED shyt started and he refused to implement OST in any if his fights. I doubt hes going to start now. Every fighter that goes against him should juice. Wait just a min, but Pac agreed! The he said she said is fact around here. Actions do not speak louder than words.

Pac has had 6 or 7 fights since the PED shyt started and he refused to implement OST in any if his fights. I doubt hes going to start now. Every fighter that goes against him should juice.

All team Pac has to do is ask for random drug testing for both fighters.. Not really that simple. You can use anabolic steroids for eight weeks or so to build muscle, a long time in advance of a fight, and then do your official training camp clean. As others have said, the only thing that gives you a good chance of keeping a sport clean is having out of competition testing in place, i.e. athletes being available for testing 24/7/365.

All team Pac has to do is ask for random drug testing for both fighters.. yep..............

End thread :rofl: marquez worked with heredia/hernandez for that fight... that's where the speculation stems from, mainly. heredia is not only tied to PEDs, he's a notorious steroid dealer who has been brought up on charges by the government and worked as an informant to avoid prison. here's what he looked like against floyd mayweather : http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/09/19/1225776/966814-mayweather-v-marquez.jpg he's not flexing here, but you can see a night and day difference in the tone of his muscles and his bulk up top. 38 year old lightweights throughout the history of the sport have not made physical improvements like that. if heredia is clean he's a great coach. i serious doubt that he's clean. http://fight news.com/wp-content/uploads/COZ9880.jpg just get rid of the space and you can see the link if you past it into your browser. here's some info on heredia. he's on youtube buying steroids in mexico and injecting them into his stomach as well. http://deadspin.com/angel-heredia/

All team Pac has to do is ask for random drug testing for both fighters..

"the last time Marquez went up to 147 he looked like a fat mess" Where is the fat mess you speak of? http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/photos/plog-content/images/boxing/pacquiao-marquez-3-weigh-in---11122011/008-pacquiao-marquez.jpg End thread

Nah. I cant see him doing roids.

Lets hope so..........

I'm convinced that most professional athletes are using PED's. After watching quite a few videos of Victor Conte, I've learned that unless you're tested year round randomly by your own volition (like Donaire), it's incredibly easy to beat testing, even blood testing I know what you mean, it really does depend on the sport I think. Like if you're talking about track and field events, or even sports like swimming or cycling, the potential impact of a doping program is absolutely huge, as you can turn third rate athletes into Olympic gold medalists. But if you're talking about a sport like soccer, where technical skill is so much more of a factor, well then you're never going to turn a second or third division player into a Lionel Messi or a Cristiano Ronaldo. So in athletics, because raw physical ability is generally the sole factor in determining outcomes, the scale of the fraud is just way bigger. Giving EPO to high level footballers can obviously have a significant impact, but nowhere near as much as if you give EPO to a tour cyclist or a 10K runner. Lance Armstrong dropped out of his first Tour de France and finished 60th or 70th in his second, then he started doping and he wins it seven times in a row. And that's what you have to think about when you get to a sport like boxing. It's so technically complex and so demanding of skill that you will never get the same massive distortions that you would get in those other sports. That's not to say it's ok, or that it doesn't have a significant impact, of course EPO or testosterone could tip the balance in an evenly matched big fight. But no amount of drugs is ever going to give you JMM's timing, nor is it going to give you Floyd's ring intelligence, or Miguel Cotto's jab. These things are the products of technical excellence, great coaching, and experience, and they cannot be artificially manufactured. And while none of that means that doping isn't an issue that needs to be tackled, it does in my opinion mean that doping is always going to be a bigger problem in some sports than others, and that great boxers for one cannot be produced by a laboratory.

It came from the meat or urine.

I'm convinced that most professional athletes are using PED's. After watching quite a few videos of Victor Conte, I've learned that unless you're tested year round randomly by your own volition (like Donaire), it's incredibly easy to beat testing, even blood testing It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Marquez is doping

Who cares about the serious health problems/side effects of steroid usage! Lets do it! Ever hear of researching, reading books or asking questions, rather than just believing propaganda. Steroids and most PED's are pretty benign when it comes to health problems, when used properly. The CDC (Center for Disease Control) Anabolic Steroids kills 3 people per year compared to Tobacco 435,000 and Alcohol 75,000. It's not use that carries the serious problems, its abuse. The almost all the problems come from people who a) people are are informed and know what can happen from abusing steroids and yet don't care or b) uninformed people(such as yourself).

skip to 1:15 The man has never been so muscular and is even more ripped than when he was at featherweight. How convienient is it that Marquez hires "conditioning" coach Angel Heredia who boasts about supplying undetectable PEDs to his athletes, who changed his name to Angel Hernandez to hide his identity and who has no experience with training professional boxers just to condition Marquez? Miraculously the last time Marquez went up to 147 he looked like a fat mess, and then suddenly Angel "Hernandez" jumps into the picture and Marquez looks like the hulk at 37 years old? The blatant steroid use couldnt be anymore obvious and how people dont realise this is beyond me. His sudden gains (from the 3rd Pacquiao fight) is another sign from steroid usage, boxers (especially from lower weight divisions) dont add 10-15lbs of muscle in their late 30's. "the last time Marquez went up to 147 he looked like a fat mess" Where is the fat mess you speak of? http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/photos/plog-content/images/boxing/pacquiao-marquez-3-weigh-in---11122011/008-pacquiao-marquez.jpg