ok, so hypothetically speaking, if pacquiao finally knocks out marquez, what impact would it have?
well, first of all, many people say marquez is an old man who is past his prime. as for pacquiao, they say he's on the decline and should never have accepted this pointless fight and instead fought other hungry up and comers.
here's what i have to say to that. what a bunch of :bsflag:.
listen, marquez is considered by many boxing experts as the best light welterweight fighter today and the true champion of the lightweight division not to mention he's top 5 in the overall p4p list. that says a lot.
as for pacquiao, he just beat a prime bradley but has somehow lost his a step or two and was't able to close the show.
so here the big question, what IF pacquiao delivers marquez his first and only knock out lose. does that mean pacquiao is a genius for making adjustments or should pacquiao reclaim his be rightful crown as the true p4p king?
you thoughts?
I agree
I agree that age doesn't matter in boxing..unless you can't stand up at your age.. hell! 40 yo is still strong.. I am, i can still fight.. :) they just wont... cuz they're afraid of breaking ma bones.. LOL
well, if JMM is determined to win over pacman no matter how OLD is he, then he can, he will and he must.. but let's see.. we know pacman is getting old either and we can see the difference of his performance from his previous fights against Bradley, etc.... LET'S SEE... you should get this fight, buy tickets for it.. there are lots online.. and YOU SHOULD watch..stop debating here.. this will end up to nothing...
it means he got back on the juice, thats what.
but he isn't, since he (and others) are under the microscope. he will not KO marquez. as a matter of fact, if it goes to the cards, I see pac losing either way, then getting thrown to mayweather, since he cant make demands for money and will take whatever floyd and bob give him. manny pac had his highs, he is done
Mayweather will not fight Pacquiao even if he "wins", let alone if he loses.
Pacquiao can go through 5 losses in a row; Mayweather is not giving Arum a dime. Pacquiao needs to leave Arum if he wants the fight. He knows this himself, he's not that stupid. But he's retiring a Top Rank fighter.
If pacquiao knocks marquez out it means Marquez is indeed too old now. He was too old 2 rematches ago.
The truth is Pac and his people two times waited for Marquez to get old.... yeah he showed his greatness and pulled some houdini **** but the truth is with the way he got played it can only happen for so long before age catches up with you all the way.
We've already seen he is nowhere near as fast as he was back in the day.
Yep, lol, that sh*t was so transparent. Come on, 4 years for the rematch; acting like they thought Pacquiao was going to do good because he became better and not because Marquez became older. Then another 3 years for a 3rd match, and with Marquez showing he was not a WW. So transparent what they were trying to do. Now he's 40 years old so they don't have to wait 3-4 years for a 4th fight, but watch them wish they'd waited 5 years on December 8.
it means he got back on the juice, thats what.
but he isn't, since he (and others) are under the microscope. he will not KO marquez. as a matter of fact, if it goes to the cards, I see pac losing either way, then getting thrown to mayweather, since he cant make demands for money and will take whatever floyd and bob give him. manny pac had his highs, he is done
1st of all Garcia is the best Light ww,Juan only had 2 pointless fights there against 2 nobodies.He has 0 meaningful wins over 135. If Manny ko's him he will have stopped a 39 year old lightweight at Welterweight and it took him 2 times in 1 year to do it. Far from impressive
yep. he needed a bunch of gifts to do it too, marquez feeling he has no other choice but to knock pacquiao out and taking risks he usually wouldnt have is the only way pacquiao can beat him. if marquez had faith in the judges calling it fairly he would fight smart and give manny another boxing lesson.
He gets brownie points since he would have been the only person to ever do it, but it still doesn't change the fact that the fight is meaningless and is basically just wank material at this point if you happen to be a fan of both fighters.
It means that age is finally catching up to JMM, and/or Manny caught him with something good and managed to follow up.
Manny is not going to knock him out though. It'll be like the third fight, with Marquez having a little bit more success. IF Marquez looks like he did in their last fight.
JMM having Angel Heredia in his camp isn't exactly helping Manny either, lol.
No way I don't think Marquez would hit the deck if they fought, I see Marquez too slick for Danny and his experience alone and Ring IQ playing out, I don't see the same scenario playing out like it did vs Morales. Marquez would not get caught by those slow wide hooks by Garcia Imo
exactamundo, garcia only has a puncher's chance and that's it.
don't get me wrong, i like garcia and i think he has good fundamentals and terrific knock out power. but styles make fights and marquez woulld be able to read garcia like an open book
this fight will prove absolutely nothing....if hype-manny knocks out a 40 year old light weight, so what? big deal.....you beat a 40yr old lw.
they said the same thing to bernard hopkins before he fought jean pascal, george foreman against michael moorer, randall bailey when he fought mike jones, antonio tarver against danny green, vitali klitschko when he foght manuel charr. dude, i can go on and on.
the point is age is not the determining factor. if any, it should be an advantage. c'mon men, give marquez some credit, he's not top 5 p4p for nothing, it's cause he earned it fair and square
depending on pacquiao's performance against marquez this december, we can then gauge how the fight with mayweather will en up. i think a 2009 version of pacquiao would have knocked out a 2009 version of mayweather though.
even if pacquiao defeats mayweather, or vice versa, i just can't see both men being friends. i mean, yeah, pacquiao has become best buddies with all his opponents but mayweather is someone who alienates the people around him, maybe it's what makes him tick.
yes i agree.. it has something to do with mayweather's attitude as well.. even if he will defeat pacman, he will never be a champ to me... a real champion is a humble one..
If pacquiao knocks marquez out it means Marquez is indeed too old now. He was too old 2 rematches ago.
The truth is Pac and his people two times waited for Marquez to get old.... yeah he showed his greatness and pulled some houdini **** but the truth is with the way he got played it can only happen for so long before age catches up with you all the way.
We've already seen he is nowhere near as fast as he was back in the day.
The last fight, which was the third fight, correct?
Correct.
But you said the first fight, which was 8 years ago.
Had me scratching my head a little :lol1:
Who has Marquez beat since the last Pacquiao fight? We have no reason to believe he's gotten better and hasn't aged becuz he's only fought bums since the first Pacquiao fight...
You mean the third fight, right?
13y ago
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