Re watched Matthysse vs Judah.....

sorry, but Judah won in a close fight. Matthysse started slow and paid the price. i felt he edged it against Alexander, but i'm not going to join the bandwagon and act like he beat Judah. Ummmm....you mean zab started slow. The only thing the HBO crew got right, was that zab wasn't pulling the trigger AT ALL. He didn't expect Lucas to box with him, so he got flustered. Was expecting him to come straight at him. Couldn't adjust, besides a few nice shots, but definitely not enough to win the fight.

people keep bringing this fight up lately arguing for Judah don't see how anyone can have him winning he did enough to not be dominated, kept it close but Lucas did all the damage, especially in the back half putting Zab down was icing on the cake, Lucas won the damn fight

hbo commentary is pretty bad sometimes. but when roy jones speaks you stfu and listen

I was scoring the fight round by round, but my dear God. The commentating was atrocious. Sometimes your yelling at the screen like "Lampley! Call the got damn fight!". HBO needs a good play by play guy like Showtime has with Mauro Renallo. I didn't even re watch it with the intent of focusing on the commentary. I saw a thread a few weeks ago, about how the fight wasn't a robbery, and I decided to watch it tonight. Maaaaaan, up to the the 9th round, I turned it off and had to start a thread about how bad the commentary was. I agree the commentary was bad as it often is. It does annoy me. I am a veteran fight watcher and I have learned to tune it out when it comes to scoring fights. Lampley makes a good living calling fights but I have little respect for his true boxing knowledge. Foreman was a great fighter but terrible at calling fights. I liked Steward's comments as a rule and Merchant, if I spelled his name right, seemed to know boxing far better than Lampley. Kellerman is ok but he goes overboard on his favorites like Judah. Roy Jones is usually good. I hate Teddy Atlas because he never shuts up even for a second and he always trashes the fighters as if he could do better. I hate how Lampley tries to call every single punch as if it was radio and you could not see for yourself what punches were thrown and landed. I don't need Lampley to tell me what I saw.

they call none of Mathysse's hard straight rights to the body....but call all of Zab's pitty-pat jabs.....disgraceful call.... Half of those jabs were caught by the glove. Also, what pissed me off the most was, when Max said he's impressed with Zab's defense. He said, "he's catching most of Matthysse's punches on his gloves." I hated Max for that the most. Max, seriously has a man crush on Judah. I don't know whether it's the New York thing. Zab said he was a great rapper. I don't get it. LMAO at the punch stats. I love how they painted the fight out to be "Zab's head shots to Lucas's body shots." I'm sitting there like, there's no way on God's green earth that Zab equalled the amount of head shots compared to Lucas's body shots. No way in Hell!!!

they call none of Mathysse's hard straight rights to the body....but call all of Zab's pitty-pat jabs.....disgraceful call....

I wish there was an option to turn off the commentary.

I don't let their comments influence my scorecard. I watch each round carefully and score the round when it's over. I write down my thoughts on the round, such as if the round was close, or clear, or even. I had Matthysse a clear winner by a few points if I remember correctly. I was scoring the fight round by round, but my dear God. The commentating was atrocious. Sometimes your yelling at the screen like "Lampley! Call the got damn fight!". HBO needs a good play by play guy like Showtime has with Mauro Renallo. I didn't even re watch it with the intent of focusing on the commentary. I saw a thread a few weeks ago, about how the fight wasn't a robbery, and I decided to watch it tonight. Maaaaaan, up to the the 9th round, I turned it off and had to start a thread about how bad the commentary was.

I don't let their comments influence my scorecard. I watch each round carefully and score the round when it's over. I write down my thoughts on the round, such as if the round was close, or clear, or even. I had Matthysse a clear winner by a few points if I remember correctly.

you don't like pitty pat jabs that hit the gloves? what's wrong with you!

They did the same for Juan Diaz vs JMM, nutthugging Diaz hard until he got ko'd. With the exception of Kellerman who seemed to realise JMM was the one doing the real damage when they went to the ropes. Pac-Bradley was a whole new level though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riSEb-hdq8M

HBO outta be a damn shamed of themselves!!! I got the impression that Max really, really wanted Zab to win. Harold Ledderman's inconsistent score cards, giving Judah rounds that were obviously all Matthysse. Roy Jones saying "Brilliant jab", after a single pitty pat jab from Judah, and not saying a single word, when Matthysse lands ANYTHING!!! Jim Lampley, only calling shots that Judah landed, and talking about Vince Lombardi at one point, while Mattyhsse was touching him up. Any time Mattysshe landed a nice combo, Max goes on to talk about what Zab needs to do to win, instead of talking about how Matthysse's winning the fight, and doing very well. Compubox stats at one point, I believe right before the 7th or 8th, had Judah landing 10 more overall punches than Lucas. When the whole time, Ledderman, Max, and Jim are complaining about Zab not throwing anything, and letting his offense go. From now on, no one is allowed to use compu box stats for their arguments! Overall, the most pissed at Max/Roy, for their clear bias. SMDH HBO....... Although they did start to give Mattyhsse his props for the last few rounds, even then, they were acting like Judah wasn't on point, and still not fully giving Mattyhsse his full credit. Max has always had a thing for Zab. Since his days of hosting Friday Night Fights over a decade ago.

hey!, if roy said good jab by zab, it was a damn great jab