How Good was Edwin Valero?**Prelude to Demarco vs Broner **

He didn't batter everyone in sparring. B level Jose Armando Santa Cruz was able to hang with him. Hahaha, you must have a very lax definition of "Hang with him".

Valero is a mythical beast these days. Its sad that we never got a chance to see how far he could go. He was much more skilled than people give him credit for, and he his power was unreal. He was brought in as sparring for basically everyone that was preparing for Pacqiauo. Every single one of them was bloodied, battered, and beaten into submission by Valero. For example. Here is a video of him dismantling and beating the brakes of Eric Morales during his Preparation for his first fight with Pacquiao... where he soundly defeated Manny. He did the Same to Barrera, Oscar, everyone... And every single one of them said that Valero hit MUCH harder than Pacqiauo. He didn't batter everyone in sparring. B level Jose Armando Santa Cruz was able to hang with him.

Yea, valero is a gym legend for good reason. Plenty of head movement from valero, just not useless head movement.

Valero is a mythical beast these days. Its sad that we never got a chance to see how far he could go. He was much more skilled than people give him credit for, and he his power was unreal. He was brought in as sparring for basically everyone that was preparing for Pacqiauo. Every single one of them was bloodied, battered, and beaten into submission by Valero. For example. Here is a video of him dismantling and beating the brakes of Eric Morales during his Preparation for his first fight with Pacquiao... where he soundly defeated Manny. He did the Same to Barrera, Oscar, everyone... And every single one of them said that Valero hit MUCH harder than Pacqiauo.

What attributes do you think Broner has? speed, power, i think he's a smart fighter on top of his physical gifts. needs to stop headhunting so much

So your learning more towards Demarco because of the experience? I personally think Demarco has a bigger chance than allot of people are giving him. He's fought guys who are excellent as certain aspects of boxing But Valero having spades, thus Demarco getting beat. I agree with you when it comes to Edwin to a T. Dude was scary scary good. I mean consider this fight Demarco sliced his head open and Valero still beat his ass. and made him quit... that was unreal most fighters if not all of them would have quit. He took it in stride... that's insane focus. It was never in question with valero. he went straight into beating ass mode after the cut like it never happened. for example, cano fought with a badass cut but it messed with his head for the rest of the round. i think demarco stands up too tall for broner, broner will get to that chin but it wall be a close, hard fight imo

its a perfect description of demarco, and a terrible one of valero. valero had great footwork, great power, and borderline great speed...oh and great heart/mental strength. there's 4 attributes better than good What attributes do you think Broner has?

He was pretty good but he was definitely not this unstoppable beast that many people think he was. well, in the ring and in sparring, he pretty much was. granted, he never really that well know and most havent see most of his fights because they were primarily in japan, but he never had an opponent hear the final bell

total different styles between valero and broner. i have to laugh at the people who say things like "valero's just a puncher" or he's one dimensional. valero is mad unorthodox and without a doubt not one dimensional. if you never saw the guy fight, stfu and listen to people who have... broner-valero would be ppv status fight for me, i like both guys but at this point I"d go valero. I''d like to see broner in with someone with any kind of skills before I could pick him over valero, especially cuz valero lefty. PDL is a lefty and he was able to touch broner's body up, valero's about 50x more skilled, had the same fearlessness, a more diverse offense and a way better d than pdl. the escobedo fight is a joke, doesnt count IMO. last I checked litzau, pdl, eloy et al never really were know to be much on the skill side. eloy is as orthodox and plain as they come. So your learning more towards Demarco because of the experience? I personally think Demarco has a bigger chance than allot of people are giving him. He's fought guys who are excellent as certain aspects of boxing But Valero having spades, thus Demarco getting beat. I agree with you when it comes to Edwin to a T. Dude was scary scary good. I mean consider this fight Demarco sliced his head open and Valero still beat his ass. and made him quit... that was unreal most fighters if not all of them would have quit. He took it in stride... that's insane focus.

Valero would have put Broner in a coffin, that's for sure. Edwin Valero is Kostya Tszyu... if you made him a southpaw, made him hit harder, and made him want to drink your blood.

No I think he's talking about Edwin Valero. its a perfect description of demarco, and a terrible one of valero. valero had great footwork, great power, and borderline great speed...oh and great heart/mental strength. there's 4 attributes better than good

total different styles between valero and broner. i have to laugh at the people who say things like "valero's just a puncher" or he's one dimensional. valero is mad unorthodox and without a doubt not one dimensional. if you never saw the guy fight, stfu and listen to people who have... broner-valero would be ppv status fight for me, i like both guys but at this point I"d go valero. I''d like to see broner in with someone with any kind of skills before I could pick him over valero, especially cuz valero lefty. PDL is a lefty and he was able to touch broner's body up, valero's about 50x more skilled, had the same fearlessness, a more diverse offense and a way better d than pdl. the escobedo fight is a joke, doesnt count IMO. last I checked litzau, pdl, eloy et al never really were know to be much on the skill side. eloy is as orthodox and plain as they come.

He was pretty good but he was definitely not this unstoppable beast that many people think he was.

u talkin about demarco right? No I think he's talking about Edwin Valero.

He was a "Does nothing Great but does everything good" type of fighter. I mean he had crazy power but he just didnt go nuts he tried to set it up and wasnt scared to mix it up. u talkin about demarco right?

Valero was a puncher and nothing more no.........

After looking at some of the variables. Who has Broner fought? I mean ponce was a southpaw and he had a very difficult time and turtles up against him. But ponce was more of a body puncher. Demarco is more of a head hunter and taller with good timing and a good power jab and a decent timed right hook with power. Broner is "good" but i think he might be in it this fight. I think this might be a career defining fight. I just hope it's a good one!

just sucks that valero-pacquiao never happened... man, that could have been awesome...

You guys are not boxing fans...Edwin Valero had zero head movement........zero......that guy just had power...that's all....I would expect broner to use him as target practice.

Come on people valero was nothing more than a hype job