As Puerto Rico's modern day boxing icon--
Or even in general, resume wise. Does Cotto have the chops to produce a more memorable career than his predecessor?
Thanks guys for all the great, straightforward answers. I personally don't think he'll ever replace Trinidad as PR's darling fighter but resume/career wise he still has time to pull out one more big win that imo will catapult him past Tito. Beating one of the holy trinity(Mayweather/Pac/Martinez)will grant him that luxury or as someone else pointed out, winning a fourth world title in the MW division shifts the balance.
cotto>trinidad resume easily. wont be able to pass tito in terms of being a pr icon though. tito gets mad love from pr and around the world. rightfully so, exciting great fighter.
Cotto will never be as close resume wise unless he has miraculous career closings.For as long as Cotto is a professional he'll always be under the shadow of Trinidad.There's only one way he could seperate himself and that's beating Martinez @ his weight to win 4 different titles in 4 different divisions.He's won belts at Jr WW,WW, and Jr Middleweight and has defended them against good competition.Martinez is currently the best in his division and a win over him Cotto can shake Trinidad off of his leg.Again, Trinidad is far more accomplished in resume but winning 4 belts is what he could of never accomplished.
No because Tito never lost a big fight a his best weight (147), Cotto did, and I am a big Cotto fan.
lol,Cotto got beaten by someone with loaded gloves and was then beaten by the hardest p4p puncher whilst cotto was drained 3 lbs
Two tainted losse's in my eyes
It would have been nice if Manny fought Cotto at the actual weight so I wouldn't have to point this out
As it stands now no. At Cotto's prime he was at 140 and he was a BEAST. He's a bit passed that now. His resume at 147 is decent but at 154 other than Mayweather it's been matchmaking. Foreman and Mayorga. It remains to be seen what he does at 154 but as of now Trinidad is more accomplished, and is #1 in the hearts and minds of most Puerto Ricans.
In my opinion he is no where near as good as Trinidad and never will be. Trinidad was a champion at age 20 and he won 20 tittle fights in a row. He won 16 tittle fights at 147, 13 of those by KO. Then he won 3 more tittle fights at 154 and he won the middleweight tittle. The loss to Hopkins seem to take something out of him. Maybe he was burned out from fighting at such a high level for so long plus he was not really a middleweight and did not perform as well there. But Trinidad at age 30 had won 40 fights without a defeat and was just a much better fighter than Cotto. A prime Trinidad would have had no problem knocking a prime Cotto out in my opinion. One thing Trinidad would never do would be to run away the way Cotto did against Margarito and Pacquiao and at times against Mosley. Trinidad never retreated and he had the great stamina that Cotto lacks. I think Cotto will be remembered as a very good fighter but Trinidad was an all time great on a higher level to answer your question.
Cotto in his mega fights.
Mosley - Win
Margarito 1 - Loss
Pacquiao - Loss
Margarito 2 - Win
Mayweather - Loss
He beat two and they were at the end of their careers and overall he's 2-3. Top it off his supreme habit of vacant belts. That's the sign of an overrated/overhyped boxer. Something Tito never was, Tito earned his stripes.
Title defenses have to at least be considered, doesnt it? Though he has had some vacant title wins as you pointed out, you cant really ignore the fact that he made some quality title defenses while holding a world title: Judah, Malignaggi, Mosley, Torres, Bailey, Clottey and Margarito II were all title defenses whom all held titles sometime during there career.
How does getting dominated and outclassed improve a resume?
All I said was their careers are similar and the opposition faced is similar and may tip in Cotto's favor (meaning he faced better fighters). That's all I said. They both fought great comp *key word(s)...if you read* was *Win or lose*
I didn't say his resume is better because of those two defeats. I was comparing opposition fought as a whole.
*sigh*
Meh, I guess it all depends on what you look for. Tito for me is nothing but a quitter. I think their careers are pretty similar in terms of resume and its real close when you examine the quality of opponents each faced win or lose, and it may favor Cotto too, considering he fought PBF and Pac.
Maybe Cotto doesn't smile enough to resonate with everyone, but I for one like his cold demeanor.
Either way, just my opinion, Tito tucked his tail and runs away when he loses a fight, Cotto pulled up the bootstraps and goes at it again, so just based on that one characteristic alone is why I personally favor Cotto. But no hate to those that feel otherwise
How does getting dominated and outclassed improve a resume?
No matter how I try to compare their resumes, at the end I end up picturing them fighting each other at 147 and 154 and I see Tito winning at eaither way by KO. I just cant put Cotto over him just like I cant put Tito over W. Benitez.
Trinidad wasted guy's one after another until De La Hoya, and the had several great fights after that where he blew junior middles and middleweights down! Just because Hopkins beat him down and De La Hoya outboxed him does not discount his previous record. This guy was awesome and Cotto is 2nd or 3rd depending on how you rank Gomez.
I don't think so. However, in terms of resume, Cotto is not that far away from Trinidad. If Cotto could only pull off a big win against either Pacquiao or Sergio, I think that could be enough to make the discussion interesting. Trinidad's attitude makes him more beloved and liked though.
Still, I think the greatest PR boxer of all time is Wilfredo Gómez, then Trinidad, then Benítez. I am referring to those that were developed in Puerto Rico. If you go overall, right now I would say Gómez, Trinidad, Camacho, Benítez, and Cotto.
Meh, I guess it all depends on what you look for. Tito for me is nothing but a quitter. I think their careers are pretty similar in terms of resume and its real close when you examine the quality of opponents each faced win or lose, and it may favor Cotto too, considering he fought PBF and Pac.
Maybe Cotto doesn't smile enough to resonate with everyone, but I for one like his cold demeanor.
Either way, just my opinion, Tito tucked his tail and runs away when he loses a fight, Cotto pulled up the bootstraps and goes at it again, so just based on that one characteristic alone is why I personally favor Cotto. But no hate to those that feel otherwise
book is still being written , if his personality were different and had charisma like tito had then i would say he would surpass him considering the added names to the resume. I think it's good that he doesnt have that type of outgoing personality though, to me it brings a different aura so to say than seeing the same overly happy and smiling person.
technically Tito is really a better boxer than cotto, but when it comes to resume's i think cotto's resume is also up there depending on how you'll judge it. The love for tito will always be greater, but cotto is really really something for them to be proud of. Now he's lacking time, but if he beats sergio, trout, canelo then we can talk again. How I wish he never fought pac though, but man has balls of steel.