[photo] Khan using a neck strength machine under Virgil Hunter

loved how everyone was bashing Freddie Roach for his training on Kahn with his weak chin...now it goes to show you, you can put Khan with even the best trainer in the world and if he gets caught he'll still go down

It looks like he is more vulnerable now :wtf1: Too much stress weakened the structure, he's a few fights away from his skull crumbling and his peanut brain falling out.

What happend to khans elite 2.0 level neck last night? It looks like he is more vulnerable now :wtf1:

Khan needs padding inserted in his skull to stop his brain rattling around.

What happend to khans elite 2.0 level neck last night?

Its a mind control device. The guy on the left is transmitting and Khan is receiving.

Who is comparing sports lol?. And why do you insist on defending that point?. Khan´s problem isn´t cervical, he just reacts badly when his brain is put in motion by punches... notice that his latest knock down came from a punch to the top of the head. I never gave any thought to Khan...I don't think much will help him. I'm just talking basics...if you don't think having a stronger neck is going to help a boxer...good for you.

Who is comparing sports lol?. And why do you insist on defending that point?. Khan´s problem isn´t cervical, he just reacts badly when his brain is put in motion by punches... notice that his latest knock down came from a punch to the top of the head.

Your example is kinda wasted since you didn´t get knocked out. Besides I´ve being hit with huge elbow to the side of the chin playing basket ball once, so hard that I tasted dust coming off my back teeth. I didn´t felt anything like what you are describing and my neck was 100% untrained at that time. Some people can handle brain trauma and sudden acceleration from punches better than others, a stronger neck wont help Khan at all. Yeah ok...riveting comparison. I didn't say chin...I said hook to the side of the head (a sideways hit close to the cervical vertebrae). Don't compare a sport with an objective of sinking balls through hoops with one where the objective is punch the other guy in the head.

I have have a feeling you have never been hit with a good hook to the side of you head. All your nerves come out through your vertebrates down your body...this is your central nervous system. Sharp sideways pressure on them travels to the nerves. It can send shockwaves through your body. I know because the 1st time I took a good right hook from my sparring partner I felt a wave run down my right arm. I was so mad I wanted to retaliate with the most vicious shot I could take at him...but my right arm was like a wet noodle and hardly moved. Fortunately a second later that wave reversed and I had my arm back. That was 13 years ago and I immediately started training my neck. Today I have a neck like a bull. A crunch to the vertebrae can cause anything from what I described to a flash knock down...or total loss of your legs and getting KTFO. The only reason you say what you said is because you haven't a clue what you are talking about. But thanks for your explanation all the same. Your example is kinda wasted since you didn´t get knocked out. Besides I´ve being hit with huge elbow to the side of the chin playing basket ball once, so hard that I tasted dust coming off my back teeth. I didn´t felt anything like what you are describing and my neck was 100% untrained at that time. Some people can handle brain trauma and sudden acceleration from punches better than others, a stronger neck wont help Khan at all.

Maybe if he learnt to keep his chin tucked in and keep a tighter guard then...oh, never mind whatever you say Virgil.

He should just do what Floyd does. No fancy machines needed. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/07/article-2034638-0DBEFD3A00000578-143_468x286.jpg http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Floyd+Mayweather+Jr+Workout+Session+4v8SYd46T5pl.jpg

Jesus, bro, what kind of equipment are you using? Here's a link to the headstrap I used to use years ago: http://www.ironmind-store.com/A-Headstrap-Fit-for-Hercules153/productinfo/1232/ The product is more expensive than I recall; but if you're serious, it's worth it. The materials and design are about as comfortable as these contraptions get. Yeah that does look like it would be comfortable...I use the ones that they have at the gyms. Expensive is right though.

I find the biggest advantage of a machine over a headstrap is that when you go heavy with a head strap it rips up the skin on your forehead...I wear a tuque and it still scraps me up...especially if you use a nylon strap...they are like ginsu knives. Machines are well padded and very comfortably and that never happens...but very few gyms have them. Jesus, bro, what kind of equipment are you using? Here's a link to the headstrap I used to use years ago: http://www.ironmind-store.com/A-Headstrap-Fit-for-Hercules153/productinfo/1232/ The product is more expensive than I recall; but if you're serious, it's worth it. The materials and design are about as comfortable as these contraptions get.

Umm....no. Floyd is quite small period. Great boxer...but nothing is huge on him except his ego. He has a big neck http://api.ning.com/files/cAC5-I5yqyEIXXpepx6VYvd2bYwWryZaCMAzxxiUV6FCltrfWKgFVRBgwTNw6bJkBp0YAkeJIVM5wCYVatG67aLeNVS4bzfn/FloydMayweatherClearsUpbeefWITH50centPIC.jpg?width=500 http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3949505/143942894_extra_large_epic.jpg http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/floyd-mayweather-jr-jeremy-lin.jpg?w=300 http://www.oneasianworld.com/images/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather.jpg

Strong neck muscles act like shock absorbers. This will definitely help Khan absorb a punch better. Freddie Roach is probably kicking himself for not thinking of that.

Just throwing this out there, Floyd has huge traps. Umm....no. Floyd is quite small period. Great boxer...but nothing is huge on him except his ego. Can anyone make out the brand name? It looks like a weird machine, lateral raises on one side and this neck thing on the other It's Hydra-Gym...they have been making various neck machines since the 80's...they were/are used in the NFL as well as by boxers and MMA guys...if your remember in that old Rocky movie Ivan Drago was seen using one while training.

You can be as protective of floyd's nonexistent coward of a balls all you want, for all i care.:greddy2: If you want to make a separate thread and talk about balls go for it, but this thread is about neck strength...

That is interesting but most Kos are result of brain trauma from acceleration and impacts against the inner part of the skull... I think it is the most accepted theory. I have have a feeling you have never been hit with a good hook to the side of you head. All your nerves come out through your vertebrates down your body...this is your central nervous system. Sharp sideways pressure on them travels to the nerves. It can send shockwaves through your body. I know because the 1st time I took a good right hook from my sparring partner I felt a wave run down my right arm. I was so mad I wanted to retaliate with the most vicious shot I could take at him...but my right arm was like a wet noodle and hardly moved. Fortunately a second later that wave reversed and I had my arm back. That was 13 years ago and I immediately started training my neck. Today I have a neck like a bull. A crunch to the vertebrae can cause anything from what I described to a flash knock down...or total loss of your legs and getting KTFO. The only reason you say what you said is because you haven't a clue what you are talking about. But thanks for your explanation all the same.

Haha cool. What the hell is that thing supposed to do? And what is that guy doing at the other end? http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/553545_10152190138015543_873263456_n.jpg It works the muscles on the back of the neck. The one on the other end is for the muscles on the side of the neck. The guy just tilts his head over to the right overcoming the force created by that hydraulic cylinder.