Prime sugar shane vs mayweather Jr@135(lightweight)

Mayweather.......

:lol1: I was trying to remember if I was recalling the same fight. I don't think the ropes keeping a guy from being flat on his face on the canvass is the that much the same as being stunned momentarily :lol1: :lol1: It's true though, you don't have to touch the canvass to be stopped of course but in the situation of Mayweather-Mosely, he wasn't even close to being "knocked out", he was hit with a big shot and stunned for around 5-10 seconds. had nothing to do with floyd dumbass, the other dumbass said floyd would've been the first ever boxer to get "knocked the **** out" without touching the canvas, so the conversation moved to "ktfo without touching canvas" and i exposed him as a boxing noob and educated him there's also whitaker-hurtado but these are brutal "KO's" the others are froch-bute, rios-alvarado recently etc if you'd stopd trying so hard to defend floyd all the time you could comprehend these things better

Everyone is saying a prime mosley @135 didn't beat anyone, but shane moved up two weight classes and beat a PRIME OSCAR at that time, who was the man If he could beat a prime oscar regardless of weight at that time what makes you guys think he has no chance against mayweather?

now in this fight i would have to take shane because pac has no defense and would eat plenty of two fisted bombs from shane. shane would kill pac inside of four rounds. its floyds defense and boxing acumen that always sets him apart from all other fighters. along with the uncanny ability to make infight adjustments. if a man does not beat floyd in the first 3 rounds, floyd re calculates and blast off with his foe befuddled and bruised up. some of you forget boxing is called the sweet science for a reason. eventhough its a violent sport its a thinking mans game. and he that out thinks, wins. Yeah this there's a reason shane ducked floyd back then

People that talk about shane at 135 routinely parrot what theyve heard other people say that shane was a beast ect. but these people have not seen the fights themselves. Floyd was by far the more proven fighter at those weights and comments like he would run all night and mosley would KO him when mayweather has touched the canvas once from a punch his entire career are comments based on emotion rather than logic and based on heresay rather than even seening fights from that era themselves. Its not that shane sucked or anything, its that the gap in quality of opposition at those weights is pretty big and people are ignoring it. Yeah Valero would spark floyd with one hand behind his back too because he has a ton of knockouts at 135 nevermind who they were against. with that homo azz sid who did mayweather fight at 135 besides Castillo who should have beat him. Ndou and Vic Sosa. Shane would have beat that azzz at 135 and 147 if he was prime like his first fight with Oscar. That Mosley would destroy floyd the cherry picker. Mosley had a bunch of fights at 135 against some decent opposition.

Poll added fellas

Sugar Shane TKO 10

Everyone talks about how great Shane was at 135, but he was facing relatively soft opposition, and he was pretty damn good at 147 until he faced Forrest. Shane looked sensational from the Wise fight up to the Stone fight at 147, and probably the best ever against DLH at 147, who was by leaps and bounds the best fighter he had ever faced at that point. Mayweather was still the smarter fighter, more technically skilled, and I'd favor him to win a competitive decision. Shane will give Floyd problems with his speed and power but Floyd has the better adapting ability and ring IQ.

And to answer the question; Mayweather wide Decision.

This?? The guy wasn't on the canvas? :lol1: I was trying to remember if I was recalling the same fight. I don't think the ropes keeping a guy from being flat on his face on the canvass is the that much the same as being stunned momentarily :lol1: :lol1: It's true though, you don't have to touch the canvass to be stopped of course but in the situation of Mayweather-Mosely, he wasn't even close to being "knocked out", he was hit with a big shot and stunned for around 5-10 seconds.

shanes best win at 135 was either Leija, Brown or Molina. Now, no offense to shane, but that aint floyd. Now floyd beat Castillo twice, once close, augustus, n'dou, and sosa. So you sure about that? People that talk about shane at 135 routinely parrot what theyve heard other people say that shane was a beast ect. but these people have not seen the fights themselves. Floyd was by far the more proven fighter at those weights and comments like he would run all night and mosley would KO him when mayweather has touched the canvas once from a punch his entire career are comments based on emotion rather than logic and based on heresay rather than even seening fights from that era themselves. Its not that shane sucked or anything, its that the gap in quality of opposition at those weights is pretty big and people are ignoring it. Yeah Valero would spark floyd with one hand behind his back too because he has a ton of knockouts at 135 nevermind who they were against.

who takes it? mosley ko's him easy but mayweather avoids the fight as usual

shame knocks him the f0ck out..a past prime shane almost did

way to expose yourself as a noob to the sport, green-cordington right off the top of my head This?? The guy wasn't on the canvas?

Floyd was going to be the first boxer to get knocked the f*ck out without ever touching the canvas.. :la: way to expose yourself as a noob to the sport, green-cordington right off the top of my head

meaning? Mosley won a round maybe 2 at 39 or so and nearly knocked Floyd the **** out. Floyd was going to be the first boxer to get knocked the f*ck out without ever touching the canvas.. :la:

Floyd is the most complete 130lb fighter though.

There are some major misconceptions in this thread, one of them being that Shane was not a counter puncher, I feel like there are people commenting here that never watched Shane fight back then, or haven't done for a long time. When Floyd fought Shane he was nearly shot, he didn't become that way overnight, if you look back over his career you can notice the steady decline, he was well past his best when Cotto fought him, and although Cotto outboxed him and beat him (close) I came away from that fight thinking Cotto would not have competed with a prime Shane. In his prime he did a little of everything, he really was a tremendous fighter. Another misconception - Shane ducking Floyd. Why would Shane fight Floyd? Because he was such a huge draw and he could make a lot money?...No Because they were in the same weight division?...No Because there was a huge public outcry for the fight?...No So let me get this straight Shane jumps 2 weight divisions to set up a fight with a Prime Oscar, the cash cow of boxing and people call this a duck? Not to mention that Floyd didn't move up to 135 (where he arguably lost his first fight) a Full 2 years after Shane fought Oscar at 147. This is not a duck people (when I say people, I think everyone knows who this is directed too). It was smart business, in fact it is not even that, it was the obvious decision. No one gave a crap about Floyd back then, he was not a draw. Once Shane fought and beat Oscar, everyone and their mother was calling Shane out. Obviously when Floyd beat Oscar then the tables turned and Floyd became the marketable star, and Shane wanted the pay day. This is boxing. Shane has no history of ducking anyone, look at his resume for god sakes! He always took on challenges, some of which he didn't need to. Whilst the other guy has a history of measuring risk vs reward. In terms of the fight I stand by my call, I think eventually Floyd gets taken out, but I don't begrudge the opinion that Floyd pulls out a points win, but I personally don't see it. Shane was not nearly the fighter we are talking about in this thread compared to the 38 year old that fought Floyd. i agree with this statement...it is an intriguing matchup...difference would be that even when shane mosley, was being outboxed, or the fight was at a turning point in the opponents favor, shane mosley would go into beastmode, down the stretch...THAT shane mosely, was gone by the time floyd mayweather jr. and manny pacquaio, caught up to him...i can't say that shane mosely was a true counterpuncher, but i would say that if/when he got hit, he was looking to pay ya back, real quick...didn't matter who it was...thats where his handspeed came into play best...shane mosely also, was a much more committed bodypuncher @ 135, did unorthodox things that he could no longer do @ 37-38, and was as celebrated as floyd mayweather jr was, when it came to accurate punching...i know floyd mayweather jr., was a bad mofo @ 130 back then, but that said i'd say it would be a fight, where floyd mayweather jr., would have to fight, to win...

floyd by close ud

Lightweight Shane was a straight killer but he never fought any elite fighter at that weight. It's close to a toss up but I'mma have to go with Floyd, as fast as prime Shane was, prime Floyd was even faster and had better reflexes. How about the Shane that fought Oscar in the 1st fight vs the Floyd that fought Gatti at 140? I don't see many fighters in history beating THAT Floyd.