I understand that Mayweather has been inactive.
But do you think Sergio Martinez is the same quality of fighter as he is?
Floyd thinks Sergio is as he wont fight him. Floyd puts everyone on pedestals and has an inferiority complex. No matter how much you say how good floyd is, he dont believe hes as good as people say he is.
1-5
Ward
Donaire
Maravilla
Pacquiao
Mayweather
No particular order. But those are your top 5. Any variation of them is fine.
I understand that Mayweather has been inactive.
But do you think Sergio Martinez is the same quality of fighter as he is?
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I think the debate between people lol is over the 1 spot. You're splitting hairs if you talk about Donaire/Ward/Maravilla etc at the others. They're all borderline great fighters. They went a bit past "pretty good".
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LOL. stop spinning it like a floydiot, its pathetic.
be careful homie, lol, floydiots are very liable to stab you if you talk to them a honest way that doesnt make floyd seem like the uncomperable god of the universe, lol, nyahahahaha
my latest p4p:
1. ward (ward resume > martinez resume)
2. martinez (keeps winning against solid comp)
3. donaire (ditto)
4. klit bros (have to give them the nod)
5. floyd (slipping & inactivity, but still keeps winning)
6. pac (lackluster performances, bradley "loss" formality)
7. froch (put in some SERIOUS work)
8. canelo (keeps winning, resume slowly getting better)
9. marquez (solid wins; arguably beat pac)
10. bradley (tough luck with "win"; but didnt convince anybody)
this list is loosely based on a "what have you done for me lately"... career's work is considered.... but not heavily, or else b-hop would still be in there somewhere...
Well THANK THE STARS that Floyd is bigger then Manny.
*phew that was a close one..
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Really? How many of yall going to ride that distant memory to the day yall die? P4P is NOT about career, especially when you have title as p4p, NOT all time p4p, so stop referring to things that happened over a decade ago. Anyways..... here's my list and why
1. Ward - Super 6 and DOMINATED against Dawson, stop using excuses and blaming guys like Ward because the other guy ASKED for 168.
2.Sergio - Dominated Jr, and has been just as dominant as Ward, you want to ride that Macklin struggled wagon, you are just being a hater.
3.Manny - Clearly beat Bradley,and other than his rival JMM, has been dominant as more importantly.....ACTIVE
4. JMM - Hes still considered by many to be Manny's kryptonite, and other than his journey at 147, has still shown age has no limits, and is just as good
5. Floyd Before many get all butt hurt, hes NOT ACTIVE enough to stay at #1. Many of you rank just based off name. Ortiz was a joke of a fight, and other than Mosley and Cotto, where has there been consistency? Its about being ACTIVE IN THE SPORT not just talking about it with hypotheticals.
6. W.K. - I know the heavy weight is watered down, but the run has been remarkable, and have overcome adversity. He just continues to win, and look good doing it.
7. Nonito - Nishioka was solid, and dominant. Hes been as explosive, as he is exciting. 126 might be in the near future, but 130....too much?
8. Cotto - I always said he had plenty left, and his great performance against Floyd proved me right once again. In case you are wondering, i had it 7-5 for Floyd. People who say it wasnt even close are the same ones who say that Bradley either won, or Manny BARELY beat Tim by the skin of his teeth. Ignore those people as they are idiots.
9. Danny Garcia - I know this seems high for him, but p4p (THIS IS NOT A ALL TIME P4P LIST OP AND PPL) lists are built on what have you done for me LATELY, and we all know what Danny just pulled off.
10. Bam Bam - Fight of the year so far with Mike, and quickly erased any remaining memory of the Abril fiasco.
As I am reading the P4P list, this is the best that P4P list with definite and correct reasons putting his list.
There are boxers and there are huggers and I agree with his list as mine.
Pac and May should settle it ones and for all to who is number 1, I hope all those floyd nuthuggers wake up and ask themselves, why does floyd keep on dodging the Pac Fight. You say that Mayweather is the boss, and you can't blame anyone but him not taking the fight!
Wards super six performance shhits over floyds green ortiz, fat JMM (a fight floyd cheated in the scales, inactive OLdsley and past prime cotto.
The Marquez fight was nothing more than a return bout after a near 2 year hiatus.
You need to realize that Floyd isn't exactly prime himself and even Pac refuses to fight Cotto at 154 and he waited until it was CONFIRMED that Mosely was a shot fighter before he took that match.Ortiz is a southpaw with good power that had won the WBC belt off of the then undefeated Berto-in a fight of the year type affair...these fights aren't that bad.
Cotto is not as fierce as he used to be pre-margarito,but he had looked a lot better when Floyd fought him (beating Yuri, Margarito, Mayorga,etc and was ranked #1 in JMW) than when Manny did (at that time he was 2 fights removed from being brutalized by concrete gloves,and struggled with Clottey). At least this version of Cotto wasn't at a catchweight and had gotten some of his confidence back from his prior defeats...enough for most people to believe that he is still very credible in boxing.
Ward,however in my opinion is the future p4p king.
Thats why Pac batters Floyd if he was the same size as FLoyd. Actually Floyd wouldnt fight Pac. That is why there is no way Floyd can be p4p no1.
Well THANK THE STARS that Floyd is bigger then Manny.
*phew that was a close one..
Nobody seems to have any idea what P4P Is. It's not about achievements past OR present, it's simply the question of if they were all the same size who would win.The only contenders in my book are Mayweather, Ward and Marquez
Try and UNDERSTAND what P4P means before you argue over it.
This is why I don't understand anybody who would put Wlad in their list. Not only is the division weak but he is so much bigger than most of his opposition. I respect Wlad a lot but he is not P4P material.
Pacquiao is Marquez's size and he's never conclusively beaten him. Why should we believe that he'd batter Floyd?
You dont judge on one common opponnent and style wise JMMwas wrong for Floyd and again you cant mention JMM without in the same breath and sentence mention the fact floyd came in over the weight limit and JMM came up 2 divisions for the first time without acclimatising.
Thats why Pac batters Floyd if he was the same size as FLoyd. Actually Floyd wouldnt fight Pac. That is why there is no way Floyd can be p4p no1.
They really made this about Floyd, lmao. I have Floyd pfp #1 and these guys are butthurt, lmao!
they never said anything anything about butthurt, you did, nobody is responding like a butthurt person except for you homie, lol, compose yourself, breathe , get your head outta your azz and ask pretend to feel better cuz you are in state of mind where you sound like you might get a nervous breakdown:dunce:
How come when Pac destroys Cotto, there is no talk of Cotto will never be the same again just cos Floyd is fighting Cotto? After Margarito beat Cotto, according to some Cotto will never be the same was the excuse just before Pac beat Cotto.
You cant mention that Pac struggled with JMM without in the same sentence mentioning the fact that Floyd came in over the limit and bloated up JMM two divisions, and the fact that JMM got it wrong first time. The blinkers have to come off once in a while.
How about bloating Floyd up to fight Sergio and see if Floyd struggles. If Floyd does ok then he might be top p4p material.
As it stands if Pac was Floyds size he would batter him to a pulp. So Pac remains p4p no1
Great logic. Your sig quotes a **** poster, and you yourself are a clueless, self absorbed troll.
I don't have certain list , because if I have to make a list , it will be shocking for most of the fans , I rate boxers like they rate tennis players , you should make a great win this year to keep the position you got the previous year at the top , or you lose it all
Pacquiao is out of top 10 SURE , and it is irrational for me to put Mayweather in the top 3
for me , Pacquiao and Floyd are something from the PAST , I don't care about their recent jokes fights anymore
when they fight each others before 40 or Mayweather fights Canelo / the great Martinez , someone PM me please !
As it stands if Pac was Floyds size he would batter him to a pulp. So Pac remains p4p no1Pacquiao is Marquez's size and he's never conclusively beaten him. Why should we believe that he'd batter Floyd?
To me, #1 and #2 is a pick between Floyd and Ward, and the order of those depends on how much you decide Floyd's relative inactivity matters. Cotto was very good, in very good shape and got his tactics right against Floyd, but Floyd's defensive work on the inside was just mind-blowing. So those two are clearly ahead of a guy who arguably failed at three attempts to beat Marquez.
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How come when Pac destroys Cotto, there is no talk of Cotto will never be the same again just cos Floyd is fighting Cotto? After Margarito beat Cotto, according to some Cotto will never be the same was the excuse just before Pac beat Cotto.
You cant mention that Pac struggled with JMM without in the same sentence mentioning the fact that Floyd came in over the limit and bloated up JMM two divisions, and the fact that JMM got it wrong first time. The blinkers have to come off once in a while.
How about bloating Floyd up to fight Sergio and see if Floyd struggles. If Floyd does ok then he might be top p4p material.
As it stands if Pac was Floyds size he would batter him to a pulp. So Pac remains p4p no1
I understand that these lists are subjective but Rios top 10? Damn..
Mine is:
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Ward
Martinez
W. Klitschko
Donaire
Marquez
V. Klitschko
Froch
Bradley