Rios-Alvarado for me is what boxing entertainment is all about!

Abril was in the pocket for much of that fight and Rios couldnt land clean All Abril did was stand there with his guard up, he really didn't even go to work. One of the reasons why i thought it was very boring too, most of the fight took place on the inside, with one guy just standing there catching punches and not doing much. Guys like Andre Ward/ Molina actually go to work once they're there and get in position they want, they don't stand there hoping to win points by catching shots.

Boxing elitist and their "chess match" posts. Chess matches don't bring in ratings.

Abril was in the pocket for much of that fight and Rios couldnt land clean Abril didn't do **** either but hug him. He didn't deserve to win that fight.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG Abril was in the pocket for much of that fight and Rios couldnt land clean

lol..........when did I say inside fighting is not a skill? The question is are alot of these brawlers good inside figthters? Just because you throw non stop punches and disregard defense doesnt make you a great inside fighter. Its funny how everyone is defending these guys and bring up inside fighting. Have you see guys like Mayweather & Ward on the inside? Or a Hopkins, etc.......? These guys are like surgeons on the inside. They have 10x more skill than a guy like Rios. Floyd would carve Rios up so bad on the inside. Just look at the Abril fight? Who killed who on the inside? Abril was tearing Rios arse up. He couldnt land and Abril was landing at will. Thats what I mean. Dont assume that because they are brawlers that they are better inside fighters. They arent in alot of cases. Infact, Alverado was truly winning the fight, using a style like Floyd & Abril. Dont get it twisted though. I gave them props. I loved the fight. It was mad exciting to me but dont tell me that this is real boxing and the other stuff isnt. It all is. Thats my point http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG

This **** is just dumb. The inside game is just like chess on it's own. Obviously you don't ****ing know much about boxing because that's where the most thinking comes into play. You always have to be on par or ahead of your opponent because if you fall behind you're beyond ****ed. I really don't get how being a brawler or inside fighter is easier than using footwork to maintain a proper distance and jabbing. Being inside is DEFENSE FIRST and offense secondary in most situations. But everyone thinks its two guys throwing their hands with zero idea how to defend themselves. There have always been "weaker guys" throughout history who fought inside. It's a shame that you generalize and don't know much about the sport. These two men showed heart, skill, determination, and some damn good chins. As for casual fans, they see punches being thrown into other peoples faces. That's it. Sometimes they hit and land more often then others. That simple lol..........when did I say inside fighting is not a skill? The question is are alot of these brawlers good inside figthters? Just because you throw non stop punches and disregard defense doesnt make you a great inside fighter. Its funny how everyone is defending these guys and bring up inside fighting. Have you see guys like Mayweather & Ward on the inside? Or a Hopkins, etc.......? These guys are like surgeons on the inside. They have 10x more skill than a guy like Rios. Floyd would carve Rios up so bad on the inside. Just look at the Abril fight? Who killed who on the inside? Abril was tearing Rios arse up. He couldnt land and Abril was landing at will. Thats what I mean. Dont assume that because they are brawlers that they are better inside fighters. They arent in alot of cases. Infact, Alverado was truly winning the fight, using a style like Floyd & Abril. Dont get it twisted though. I gave them props. I loved the fight. It was mad exciting to me but dont tell me that this is real boxing and the other stuff isnt. It all is. Thats my point

Haha of course they haven't. It's okay, i'll invite them to my gym and we can go in a phonebooth. Let's see if just anyone can do it. You also have to have serious balls to be able to fight like that. Agreed. It's funny how a good inside fighter can turn everyone into an outside guy. So it's so easy that they make a guy use his "Skills"

I bet 99.9% of people that say inside fighting requires no skill has never boxed a single round in their life. Haha of course they haven't. It's okay, i'll invite them to my gym and we can go in a phonebooth. Let's see if just anyone can do it. You also have to have serious balls to be able to fight like that.

Yeah it was a hell of a fight. I enjoy wars and I enjoy technical fights, there's room for both in boxing. Both contain essential aspects of the sport : precision, beauty and savagery.

I find it funny that the people that say they didn't enjoy it are the people that like watching Bernard Hopkins tap an opponent twice, then grab him, then push him away and throw another shot. Or Andre Ward grab every 15 seconds, or Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander etc. Lol. It was a great fight that showed skill as well. Fighting inside like that is not easy, you're not just throwing punches, anyone who has fought themselves knows that. I bet 99.9% of people that say inside fighting requires no skill has never boxed a single round in their life.

You clearly don`t **** about boxing. Fighting on the inside is a skill. Being able to stay composed and throw combos while in close with another man trying to take your head off is not easy to do. It requires great technique, focus and BALLS!! I bet you haven't boxed a single round in your life. Obviously he hasn't. Great post though.

There are fights like this all over the place in seedy town halls to tents , Ive seen 100s of 6 rnd wars , 2 guys banging on each other , thats the difference between a fan of the fights or a fan of boxing , to be honest give me a chess match fight between elite fighters any day of the week , any tough guy can lead with their head , I admire their courage but they dont empress me as boxers . You clearly don`t **** about boxing. Fighting on the inside is a skill. Being able to stay composed and throw combos while in close with another man trying to take your head off is not easy to do. It requires great technique, focus and BALLS!! I bet you haven't boxed a single round in your life.

I find it funny that the people that say they didn't enjoy it are the people that like watching Bernard Hopkins tap an opponent twice, then grab him, then push him away and throw another shot. Or Andre Ward grab every 15 seconds, or Tim Bradley, Devon Alexander etc. Lol. It was a great fight that showed skill as well. Fighting inside like that is not easy, you're not just throwing punches, anyone who has fought themselves knows that.

I didn't really enjoy the fight that much. It was a very low skilled affair. Lmao@you sig with that statement.

Though Rios definately needs to work on his defense, his skill on the inside is crazy, that's the hardest place to be in a match. All the guys he's fought and actually opened themselves up on trenches lost, that's what happened to Alverado, he was getting worn with body shots, head shots, he couldn't keep up the movement, he fell right into Rios' strengths.

Lol i guess some people would rather watch two "highly skilled" dudes dance around a ring and feather fist each other and hug, rather than two obviously well conditoned bad a**es fight and trade on the inside

I didn't really enjoy the fight that much. It was a very low skilled affair.

This is the argument I hate the most in boxing. How can you call yourself a boxing fan and not appreciate a great chess match? The fact is boxing is different styles. Last nights fight was awesome but I could watch a high skilled chess match with the same enthusiasm. You guys say that these types of fights always win FOTY and that 90% of boxing fans like this more but thats the problem. Why would you wanna think as mainstream fans do? Anyone can appreciate a brawl? It takes no knowledge of the sport to watch that but you have to know boxing and love it inside out to see all the finer entrancies that a chess match brings. Boxing is an art just as much as a brutal sport. Dont tell me that a guy is a boring coward just because he chooses to not willingly get hit or because he's a complete fighter. Dont get me wrong, there are boring chess matches. There is no doubt about that. There are also some boring brawls where you can see that there is no skill involved. Last nights fight was skillful brawling. Maybe not at the highest skill level but they were both beast. Still, the point is that if you are a boxing fan then you should be able to appreciate both. Maybe you arent at the level where you can appreciate them equally but you should still appreciate both. The fact still remains that its easier to master being a face 1st brawler than it is to master being a pure boxer. There is something to say for a smaller, weaker man winning a fight or outclassing a guy because he has mastered the art. Thats what makes the sport great. All different styles. I love them all but I tend to take up for pure boxers more because pretty much everyone ****s on them. I can understand a mainstream fan doing that but a boxing fan should be able to appreciate the art in it This **** is just dumb. The inside game is just like chess on it's own. Obviously you don't ****ing know much about boxing because that's where the most thinking comes into play. You always have to be on par or ahead of your opponent because if you fall behind you're beyond ****ed. I really don't get how being a brawler or inside fighter is easier than using footwork to maintain a proper distance and jabbing. Being inside is DEFENSE FIRST and offense secondary in most situations. But everyone thinks its two guys throwing their hands with zero idea how to defend themselves. There have always been "weaker guys" throughout history who fought inside. It's a shame that you generalize and don't know much about the sport. These two men showed heart, skill, determination, and some damn good chins. As for casual fans, they see punches being thrown into other peoples faces. That's it. Sometimes they hit and land more often then others. That simple

This is the argument I hate the most in boxing. How can you call yourself a boxing fan and not appreciate a great chess match? The fact is boxing is different styles. Last nights fight was awesome but I could watch a high skilled chess match with the same enthusiasm. You guys say that these types of fights always win FOTY and that 90% of boxing fans like this more but thats the problem. Why would you wanna think as mainstream fans do? Anyone can appreciate a brawl? It takes no knowledge of the sport to watch that but you have to know boxing and love it inside out to see all the finer entrancies that a chess match brings. Boxing is an art just as much as a brutal sport. Dont tell me that a guy is a boring coward just because he chooses to not willingly get hit or because he's a complete fighter. Dont get me wrong, there are boring chess matches. There is no doubt about that. There are also some boring brawls where you can see that there is no skill involved. Last nights fight was skillful brawling. Maybe not at the highest skill level but they were both beast. Still, the point is that if you are a boxing fan then you should be able to appreciate both. Maybe you arent at the level where you can appreciate them equally but you should still appreciate both. The fact still remains that its easier to master being a face 1st brawler than it is to master being a pure boxer. There is something to say for a smaller, weaker man winning a fight or outclassing a guy because he has mastered the art. Thats what makes the sport great. All different styles. I love them all but I tend to take up for pure boxers more because pretty much everyone ****s on them. I can understand a mainstream fan doing that but a boxing fan should be able to appreciate the art in it The best post I've read in this thread...

Entertaining bout that turned out to be a FIGHT as advertized ! Both men are to be congradulated for their efforts and willingness to put it ALL on the line!! I enjoy technical abilities as much as anyone but this BRAWL was filled with techniques but the average fan only considers some guy dancing ala Ali as a "skilled" fighter! If there were more fighters who knew how to fight at close range you'd see them winning titles and putting the sport on notice. People don't want to see Sergio running around the ring never mounting an effort to stop Junior!! The reason for the Pacman/ Floyd hype is because one man comes to fight and apply pressure and the other moves and looks to counter, thats a good match!! A better match for the fans are what these two young men performed last night!!! No time to blink, all action and honest efforts to win!! Ray.