Leonard ELLERBE Challenges Dan RAFAEL Re Pacquiao's PPV Numbers...On Twitter

Yawn. People are curious about Floyd's next move. Knowing that Manny already has a fight coming, Ellerbe should at least talk about Floyd's next fight. What's wrong with Canelo? Floyd can fight him and do the usual numbers. Man, I suspect they're scared of the Ginger kid. They can't even mention his name. Uncle Roger was talking about Bradley the other day.

Pac is offering to give Mayweather 10 percent more of the revenue, even though Mayweather's PPV sales are 50 percent higher than Pac's. And you and others think this is a generous offer that Mayweather should jump at this offer? Floyd/Ortiz PPV numbers were confirmed by HBO. All of Floyd's PPV numbers are released by HBO. However, Pac's last three PPV buys have only been released by his promoter, the king of lies. If Mayweather-Ortiz numbers were confirmed by HBO as you seem to know, why did you not mention the numbers; is this deliberate? As for the 50% more....you're romancing. It only means that Pacquiao's numbers are more honest, and Mayweather's are his own creations-like his "guarantees"..... Why are most of the idiots questioning Pacquiao's numbers and ignoring Mayweather's fakery?? Fot a boxing fan it should be about the fight, not about other peoples' money.

I APOLOGIZE. I simply had not realized that the way to "make an offer" is through Skip Bayless when you are promoting a different fight. Don't you get it, Ros? You're supposed to hire a judge to hold mediations behind closed doors where a gag order is in place... then go to the media with a countdown clock. You don't get that? The sad part is that at least Mayweather's side have proof of an actual contract they sent to the judge and pacquiao to try to make the fight back in '10. But for some reason, some posters prefer a countdown clock.

wow... challenging someone on twitter is the sissiest act you can do in your lifetime... why does people "tweet" anyway?... jesus christ...

Once again Floyd trying to avoid the fight.

Team May is jealous of Pac's ppv buys? Or Pac's purses? Neither. Thats the point. No one cares about that. What many think gets to him is the fact that Manny is accepted as great by the majority, where most question Floyd and his career. Nothing to do with #'s. Thats why i said that i dont get everyones obsession with others personal finances. End of the day, its not how much you personally make, but how much you will draw and bring in. THATS the kicker.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e254/topz31/oh_yeah.jpg Costa: When you keep referring that your health come first, are you saying that you have something to fear against this man :lol1:.

Im surprised Ellerbe knows how to type. You woulda thought he wouldnt have time to do anything but slobber over Floyd's cawk instead of getting a real job. He rather wait for hand outs like a bum that he is. If there's no Floyd ellerbe would be in a homeless shelter feeling up bums. Duh...everybody can type but he specialize in rubbing though.

is not jealousy and envy from LE and his team. Team May is jealous of Pac's ppv buys? Or Pac's purses?

Why are these people and their fan boy nut huggers so obsessed with this guys personal finances. The only thing that should matter is the fact that the money is so stupid huge that it is just plain idiotic not to make this happen. At some point, even i have to stop stop trying to defend that their is not jealousy and envy from LE and his team.

Used to be about drug testing issues for more than two years. When that was gone, Floyd dropped another duck manure to avoid the fight. What a mess Mayflower did to the sport. :unitedsta

The gate figures for Pacquiao vs. Bradley haven't been confirmed either. They said it did $8.9 million which would be one of the largest gates in Nevada history. But it appears nowhere on the rankings. Mayweather vs. Cotto was posted 4 days after the fight took place. http://boxing.nv.gov/New_Gates.htm Given this information, Ellerbe seems to be asking fair questions. If anybody is upset about scrutiny, they usually have something to hide.

The gate figures for Pacquiao vs. Bradley haven't been confirmed either. They said it did $8.9 million which would be one of the largest gates in Nevada history. But it appears nowhere on the rankings. Mayweather vs. Cotto was posted 4 days after the fight took place. NEVADA'S LARGEST GROSSING GATES THE TOP 35 MAIN EVENT VENUE/PROMOTER/TV DATE PAID ATTENDANCE GROSS SALES 1 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA MGM, Golden Boy, Don Chargin, PPV 05/05/07 15,432 $ 18,419,200.00 2 LENNOX LEWIS vs. EVANDER HOLYFIELD II Thomas and Mack, Don King, PPV 11/13/99 17,078 $ 16,860,300.00 3 EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV 12/06/08 14,468 $ 14,380,300.00 4 EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. MIKE TYSON II MGM, Don King, PPV 06/28/97 16,279 $ 14,277,200.00 5 EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. MIKE TYSON I MGM, Don King, PPV 11/09/96 16,103 $ 14,150,700.00 6 MIKE TYSON vs. PETER MC NEELEY MGM, Don King, PPV 08/19/95 16,113 $ 13,965,600.00 7 FELIX TRINIDAD vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Don King, PPV 09/18/99 11,184 $ 12,949,500.00 8 BERNARD HOPKINS vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA MGM, Top Rank, Golden Boy, PPV 09/18/04 15,672 $12,782,650.00 9 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. MIGUEL COTTO MGM, Golden Boy, DiBella, PPV 05/05/12 14,612 $12,000,150.00 10 EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ III MGM, Top Rank, PPV 11/12/11 15,498 $ 11,648,300.00 11 JOE CALZAGHE vs. BERNARD HOPKINS Thomas & Mack, Golden Boy, Don Chargin, HBO 04/19/08 14,345 $ 11,636,400.00 12 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. SHANE MOSLEY MGM, Golden Boy, Don Chargin, PPV 05/01/10 14,038 $ 11,032,100.00 13 MIKE TYSON vs. FRANK BRUNO II MGM, Don King, PPV 03/16/96 16,143 $ 10,673,700.00 14 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON MGM, Golden Boy, PPV 12/08/07 15,488 $ 10,393,950.00 15 SHANE MOSLEY vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA MGM, Top Rank, PPV 09/13/03 16,074 $ 9,840,000.00 16 FLOYD MAYWEATHER vs. VICTOR ORTIZ MGM, Golden Boy, PPV 09/17/11 13,364 $ 9,000,000.00 17 EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. SHANE MOSLEY MGM, Top Rank, PPV 05/07/11 15,422 $ 8,882,600.00 18 OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. FERNANDO VARGAS Mandalay Bay, Top Rank, Main Events, PPV 09/14/02 10,984 $ 8,871,300.00 19 EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. MIGUEL ANGEL COTTO MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV 11/14/09 15,470 $ 8,847,550.00 20 EMMANUEL PACQUIAO vs. RICHARD HATTON MGM, Golden Boy, Top Rank, PPV 05/02/09 15,368 $ 8,832,950.00 21 OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. RICARDO MAYORGA MGM, Golden Boy, Don King, Don Chargin, PPV 05/06/06 12,276 $ 7,636,000.00 22 OSCAR DE LA HOYA vs. JULIO C. CHAVEZ I Caesars Palace, Top Rank, Don King, Close Circuit 06/07/96 14,738 $ 7,579,100.00 23 LENNOX LEWIS vs. HASIM RAHMAN Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, Lion, PPV 11/17/01 9,830 $ 7,537,400.00 24 FELIX TRINIDAD vs. FERNANDO VARGAS Mandalay Bay, Don King, Main Events, PPV 12/02/00 9,309 $ 7,486,400.00 25 FELIX TRINIDAD vs. DAVID REID Caesars Palace, Don King, America Presents, PPV 03/03/00 9,584 $ 7,329,500.00 26 MIKE TYSON vs. FRANCOIS BOTHA MGM, America Presents, PPV 01/16/99 10,221 $ 7,055,800.00 27 FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ MGM, Golden Boy, PPV 09/19/09 12,009 $ 6,865,250.00 28 EVANDER HOLYFIELD vs. JAMES DOUGLAS Mirage, Mirage, PPV 10/25/90 10,117 $ 6,546,441.00 29 ROY JONES JR vs. JOHN RUIZ Mirage, Mirage, PPV 03/01/03 11,490 $ 6,526,350.00 30 LENNOX LEWIS vs. DAVID TUA Mandalay Bay, Main Events, America Presents, Panix, PPV 11/11/00 10,809 $ 6,508,500.00 31 RAY LEONARD vs. THOMAS HEARNS II Caesars Palace, Top Rank, PPV 06/12/89 12,064 $ 6,468,600.00 32 RAY LEONARD vs. ROBERTO DURAN Mirage, Top Rank, Victory Promotions, PPV 12/07/89 11,904 $ 6,448,700.00 33 RONALD "WINKY" WRIGHT vs. FELIX TRINIDAD MGM, Don King, Gary Shaw, Guilty, PPV 05/14/05 13,590 $ 6,433,500.00 34 MIKE TYSON vs. BRUCE SELDON MGM, Don King, PPV 09/07/96 9,511 $ 6,305,900.00 35 **LARRY HOLMES vs. GERRY COONEY Caesars Palace, Don King, Tiffany, Close Circuit 06/11/82 29,214 **Also highest attendance $ 6,239,050.00 UPDATED 05/09/12 http://boxing.nv.gov/New_Gates.htm

Question: Was the Mayweather $40 Mn offer to Pacquiao the functional equivalent of 67/33?

I just find it funny that Floyd offered Pac 40 million guaranteed and her turned it down and he didn't get bashed by the media for it. Imagined if it was Manny that made that offer imagine if manny offered floyd 0 percent of the ppv and floyd turned it down? hmmm yeah then floyd would be ducking according to you.

What's this mean though? He trying to get some ammunition to go to the negotiating table with Bob Arum? Or his this just another reason why the fight will never happen? My guess is "A". If people are saying 55/45 is fair, then Ellerbe and/or Team Mayweather has a fiduciary responsibility to validate the basis for the negotiation. If you were trading in your used car, would you rely upon what the dealer tells you....or would you check the Blue Book yourself?

What's this mean though? He trying to get some ammunition to go to the negotiating table with Bob Arum? Or his this just another reason why the fight will never happen? Depends how you want to look at it, it could be either no one really knows tbh. Just depends which side you ask.

What's this mean though? He trying to get some ammunition to go to the negotiating table with Bob Arum? Or his this just another reason why the fight will never happen?

floyd just really dont wanna fight manny has given him everything he just dont care dont understand why he could beat manny easily imo That's not true, when it's on paper Manny has never agreed to anything. Manny agrees when he's trying to hype his own fight, or floyd is locked into a fight already...I've never seen a Floyd offer on the table that Mannys said okay. Oh he'll test now when it was the only thing stopping him before? Then he went on to sell less than May. May then said in a new contract, I want a bigger split... no good for Manny. Then well it's gotta be in a new stadium were building... it's all smoke and mirrors. Didn't floyd agree to everything manny asked the first time around with a 50/50 split and all Floyd wanted was testing?

What I don't get is why is Ellerbe talking about Pacquiao when Floyd already told 50 cent he is not interested in the fight? No one is pointing a gun on Floyd's head to fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao has a fight in December. Why not talk about Floyd's next fight, instead? So who is Floyd going to fight next? Does anybody here have balls enough to tweet Ellerbe this question? Do you have a link for that? Thanks in advance.