The current SMW kingpin vs the former SMW kingpin. Who wins and why?
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I think Calzaghe is the more athletic of the two, definitely the faster of the two, and has better stamina.
Ward is easily more athletic...people keep talking about how Joe hits at unconventional angles,but watch the shots Ward hit the southpaw stance of Dawson...very unconventional.Ward can fight unorthodox, conventional, inside, outside, southpaw, rough,etc...he would be able to nullify Joe's workrate and volume...
While we are having fantasy match ups and "what ifs" with Joe-Ward is actually fighting/or has fought some of the best of his time.It took Joe a few excuses before he finally got the stones to fight Lacy (though he did so in impressive fashion).He seemed to lack belief in himself to take better fights (he pulled out 3 times against Glen Johnson!).
this would be a very interesting matchup. Calzaghe is still underestimated to this day.
He is a stylistic nightmare for just about anyone. He throws lots of punches, has very very fast hands, has a solid chin, fantastic ability to adapt, decent power, and to top it all off, he is an extremely awkward southpaw that throw punches from all kinds of unconventional angles.
He reminds me of a more awkward sergio martinez, that isn't scared to take a shot to get in an exchange with you.
roflmfao!!!!!
Both had equal will. That's about it. Calzaghe gets utterly deconstructed by Ward and exposed as the gimpier, less coordinated, less athletic, less ring intelligent pugger that he is. IMHO. Ward takes what 400 year old Hopkins beleaguered to the next level.
You are calling Calzaghe unathletic?
Both had equal will. That's about it. Calzaghe gets utterly deconstructed by Ward and exposed as the gimpier, less coordinated, less athletic, less ring intelligent pugger that he is. IMHO. Ward takes what 400 year old Hopkins beleaguered to the next level.
ok i'll mention the knockdowns vs kabary salem and byron mitchell.
Fair point, but you must remember that Salem the Egyptian Magician was a scary man for anyone to face, with 12 devastating knockout wins over the course of his career. Few would be able to get back up from such powerful blows, but Joe was in a class above the rest.
This is close. I think Ward is awesome but I would give the nod to Calzaghe.
Reasons being he was so unorthodox... he was basically everywhere punching from all kinds of angles.
His work rate was unreal... throwing upto 1000 punches a fight (thats impressive for a SMW). This goes with his unreal stamina.
Had a great chin so taking Wards shots wouldn't have been the biggest problem due to his own lack of defense. (pls dont mentions the flash KDs against hopkins and RJJ)
ok i'll mention the knockdowns vs kabary salem and byron mitchell.
Andre Ward has wins over basic, limited plodders who were past prime in Kessler and Froch, oh also badly weight drained hype job chad dawson
the rest of the names on his resume are pathetic jokes
a calzaghe fan talking down about someone else s resume. you have got to be kidding me. Calslappies resume may be the most pathetic in the history of sports and that's not a joke at all
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That's just Joe Calzaghe's interpretation of the crab style.
He's fighting like he has pincers instead of gloves.
This is close. I think Ward is awesome but I would give the nod to Calzaghe.
Reasons being he was so unorthodox... he was basically everywhere punching from all kinds of angles.
His work rate was unreal... throwing upto 1000 punches a fight (thats impressive for a SMW). This goes with his unreal stamina.
Had a great chin so taking Wards shots wouldn't have been the biggest problem due to his own lack of defense. (pls dont mentions the flash KDs against hopkins and RJJ)
Ward,Joe wouldn't make it easier but Ward would punish Joe for every mistake and he made a lot.Short crisp punching vs fast slaps would make for a wide decision for Ward
I have to say Calzaghe.
People really underestimate him. He could adapt to any style, and his workrate speaks for itself. Ward would be gassed in the late rounds trying to keep up with joe.
And i know Andre ward is looked upto like god in these parts, but i'm just going with my feeling.
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Great question; Between top Calzaghe and Ward, I'd go for Calzaghe.
My own answer suprising me; but it's my feeling...
► Froch doesn't want to face Ward, and Ward knows it.
■Froch says:
1) Nobody wants to fight Andre Ward
2) He’s awkward
3) He knows how to spoil a fight
► But since his victory against Dawson, Ward believes in his chances to fantasize a KO victory over Stevenson; Which is impartially impossible.
► Ward is ambitious, and WBC #1 Nikola Sjekloca will not draw enough attention for HBO, but attraction is not the issue.
► Adonis Stevenson vs Don George, will position Stevenson into the IBF #1 spot.
► The purpose of all this is, even if Ward can't be part of another association ranking like the IBF, by KO Adonis Stevenson, he, HBO & Froch clan will be able to negociate a deal for the unification of the belts.
1) In january 2013, if Adonis Stevenson loss by KO, he will have a 90 days suspension; means, he will not be eligible to fight for his mandatory bout against Froch on March 2013.
► The purpose of all this is, Ward hopes to position himself as the IBF mandatory challenger for Froch in March 2013, for the Unification of the WBA, WBC & IBF belts.
1) Of course you have Rodriguez (IBF 3) and Oosthuizen (IBF 4), which both wants a title shot, but will not be able to put on the table, the amount of money HBO will propose for that bout.
► HBO will buy this (Ward-Froch 2) idea, because Ward is focussing on a new dream, being historically the First UNDISPUTED CHAMPION of the super middleweight division, 1st...
But Adonis Stevenson is an enigma, he will beat George, Ward, Froch and also Abraham...
Adonis Stevenson is Faster ►►►
most guys that throw lots of punches throw punches, calzaghe didn't throw punches.
example-not punches!
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haha that guy punches like a homosexual trying to fight his way out of a spider web.
This fight would go to a decision for the home town fighter
In the UK the judges would give it to Calzaghe because of workrate
In the U.S. they would give it to Ward because hes a technician
Yeah i agree with that.
No way this fight doesn't take place in Oakland though.