Sergio Martinez vs ...

how good is golovkins chin? According to his trainer and entourage, granite.

Yeah I can agree to that too but Martinez hasn't fought a fighter like Mayweather.. Even though he is on the decline none of Martinez past fights would have the skill level, ring generalship and I.Q that can match Mayweathers.. I think that both these fighters would have there way with each other depends who catches who first Good point. Green K.

Na, Martinez had a reach advantage over Chavez so that tells you that aslong as Martinez uses his feet like always does May isn't going to hit him at will. I don't think Martinez is going to be troubled by Mayweather punches either. and I'd like to see how Money deals with probabaly the fastest and hardest jab he would have ever been the wrong end of. Plus Martinez uses angles, were not talking about walking down an old Shane Mosley or frustrating Victor Ortiz were talking about aguy who will be the biggest puncher,the fastest fighter only behind Zab Judah he has faced and at the highest weight he would have fought at. Please remember Mayweather has slowed down in recent fights and his hunger for the sport has somewhat dwindled since the Marquez comeback. Yeah I can agree to that too but Martinez hasn't fought a fighter like Mayweather.. Even though he is on the decline none of Martinez past fights would have the skill level, ring generalship and I.Q that can match Mayweathers.. I think that both these fighters would have there way with each other depends who catches who first

how good is golovkins chin?

Agreed that Chavez has a better resume, but not by much really. Canelo's skills appear to be growing every fight, even if he always has a big advantage (fighting old guys like mosley, or small ones like josesito). But still, he dominates in these fights, even if he gets hit, it doesn't throw him off his game, he stays in control. I dunno, you are right that we can't conclude much til he faces some elite 154 lbers, but just watching him I think there is no doubt he would have put up a much better fight against Serg than JR did By watching ginger beat up on Lopez, Gomez, Hatton (Matt), Mosley (shot) & Cintron (shot), you've came to that conclusion?? The homey is quite frankly fvcking amazing tbh.

Martinez stops ginger & Cotto. He ud's Floyd & Triple G poses the most problems. Until proven otherwise Martinez ud's him in the most competitive fight.

Mayweather - Martinez.. I think Mayweather would have his way with him espicially when Martinez keeps his hands that low.. Can't do that with Money May.. Na, Martinez had a reach advantage over Chavez so that tells you that aslong as Martinez uses his feet like always does May isn't going to hit him at will. I don't think Martinez is going to be troubled by Mayweather punches either. and I'd like to see how Money deals with probabaly the fastest and hardest jab he would have ever been the wrong end of. Plus Martinez uses angles, were not talking about walking down an old Shane Mosley or frustrating Victor Ortiz were talking about aguy who will be the biggest puncher,the fastest fighter only behind Zab Judah he has faced and at the highest weight he would have fought at. Please remember Mayweather has slowed down in recent fights and his hunger for the sport has somewhat dwindled since the Marquez comeback.

Mayweather - Martinez.. I think Mayweather would have his way with him espicially when Martinez keeps his hands that low.. Can't do that with Money May..

Martinez is done. Hes 37 and the injuries he sustained in the Chavez fight will keep him on the shelf for at least 9 months. Two torn ligaments in his knee and a broken hand. Even if he makes it back he will never be the same. Martinez' best atribute is his movement. Any top contender at JMW and MW beats him.

Canelo @ 154 or 160 lbs Cotto @ 154 lbs GGG @ 160 lbs Mayweather @ 154 lbs Gimme predictions and reasoning. I think all these fights would be awesome. Cotto, Canelo get beat badly. Depending on how Martinez ages with that injury the money fight is one I favour him slightly. I can see Floyd not looking like Floyd in that fight, looking at what he's up against If Floyd makes Martinez look stupid like some people think he will then I'll eat my hat and for me that will cement his legacy more than a Pacquiao fight now ever could. But you know Floyd wants nothing to do with Martinez, Martinez' style would actually make Mayweather look bad which would be a first also. Honestly I hope Martinez stays well away from GGG, that dude is scary powerful and is pretty well rounded after a 8 month lay off I see Martinez legs not be as active and I think it wuld only take one bomb from Golovkin. Until Golovkin beats better opponents the fight makes no sense anyway.

Canelo @ 154 or 160 lbs Cotto @ 154 lbs GGG @ 160 lbs Mayweather @ 154 lbs Gimme predictions and reasoning. I think all these fights would be awesome. Martinez tko canelo 11 - can't see it happening any other way. Canelo won't have an answer for Martinez power and speed and movement. He won't be able to walk through Martinez shots like he been doing with jww's and ww's. He'll spend the fight covering up and when he gets desperate in the championship rounds he'll get caught and stopped. Martinez ud Cotto- Martinez will outwork Cotto but Cotto has learned to cover up pretty well. Cotto gets outworked but doesn't lose discipline enough to get ko'd. Martinez ko GGG 11- just like all the other flavor of the months, GGG is highly overrated. I see him utilizing his extensive amateur background and heavy hands to keep Martinez honest, maybe even scoring an off balance kd. but Maravilla's championship caliber is displayed in the championship rounds and GGG is taken into deeper waters than he knows and drowned. Floyd sd Martinez - in a chess match war, these two ebb and flow.. Martinez outworking, but Floyd defending well and countering. We'll see a bit of a jab competition and Floyd will be extra careful of Serg's left hand. A classic unfolds as neither man fades as the fight goes on but gets better. Serg more intense and crisp and Floyd gradually smarter. Ring smarts (and popularity) win Floyd a hotly debated SD. Floyd retires shortly after the most punishing challenging fight of his career.

Nice analysis, I agree fully with it all. Except I think Canelo would last all 12. I don't think Canelo will hit the canvas, but I think he's gonna get cut on top of the eye (like he did against Mosley). I think Canelo will be cut by the 6th, and Martinez would work that eye over in rounds 7/8/9. Canelo wouldn't come out for round 10.

Assuming Martinez makes 154 without deteriorating: vs. Canelo = Martinez via TKO9 vs. Cotto = Martinez via TKO11 vs. Mayweather = Floyd via SD vs. Golovkin = Martinez via close UD Martinez's reach and southpaw stance will be an issue for all these guys. Their endurance/stamina/heart will get tested. Floyd is the most defensively responsible, so he stands the best chance of going 12. Golovkin has the best chance of stopping Martinez. Canelo/Cotto's lack of head movement will leave them vulnerable in the championship rounds when Sergio tends to get switch to a higher gear. All great match-ups. Nice analysis, I agree fully with it all. Except I think Canelo would last all 12.

No way. Chavez jr is the better fighter hands down. Sure ginger uses a good jab, I guess. He does throw shorter punches too. That however are the only advantages he has. Chavez is the better fighter with the better resume. The jury is out & probably will be for some tie on just how good ginger is. Beating Josesito while getting hit a lot from a guy 2 divisions smaller doesn't tell me a thing. Agreed that Chavez has a better resume, but not by much really. Canelo's skills appear to be growing every fight, even if he always has a big advantage (fighting old guys like mosley, or small ones like josesito). But still, he dominates in these fights, even if he gets hit, it doesn't throw him off his game, he stays in control. I dunno, you are right that we can't conclude much til he faces some elite 154 lbers, but just watching him I think there is no doubt he would have put up a much better fight against Serg than JR did

Money May vs Maravilla. Make it happen :boxing: Cotto is the one destined to hang the 1 in Canelo's loss column.

Canelo @ 154 or 160 lbs (Sergio stops Canelo late or Canelo wins a decision) I think people continue to underestimate Canelo. His skillset is VERY good and he is very tough and strong. I think he can beat Sergio on the cards or Sergio possibly stops if he can connect enough. This may be more evenly matched than people think to be honest. Cotto @ 154 lbs (Sergio stops Cotto in mid/late rounds) This one is EASY, Sergio stops Cotto, no other outcome. No way Cotto can win via decision and Cotto's chin and face won't hold up and he will be stopped. Respect to Cotto but no way he can last 12 rounds against Sergio and no way he can stop or hurt Sergio. GGG @ 160 lbs (GGG wins decision or stops Sergio) This one is TOUGH. I know GGG has proven himself enough yet but I will go with GGG by decision. I think he has the chin to deal with Sergio and the power and skills to worry Sergio. I think he may even be able to stop Sergio. I actually think GGG wins this one either way. Mayweather @ 154 lbs (Floyd wins by decision or Sergio stops Floyd late) I think Sergio by stoppage because I really don't think anyone can win a decision over Floyd because he is too skilled, makes great adjustments and is too seasoned. If Sergio cannot KO Floyd, he loses a decision. Also there is no way Floyd is stopping Sergio so he can only win via decision or he gets stopped. I just think Floyd is too small to really hang with Sergio probably.

Sergio beats them all, in fact only one may even have the balls to get in the ring with Sergio and that man being Golovkin. Floyd won't go within a thousand miles of Sergio. Gingerspice is contempt on fighting 140lb B levelers. Cotto wouldn't want his career ended & frankly I wouldn't blame him for taking more money with less risk involved. And seeing Golovkin hasn't fought anybody, i'll go with the more proven guy who isn't contempt on eating powershots like Smarties to get his own off.

you don't think Canelo is better than Chavez Jr? Imo he is much more technically sound. Actually uses his jab pretty well, more compact punches, and just better overall. I think Martinez would beat him but it would be a lot better fight than against JR imo. No way. Chavez jr is the better fighter hands down. Sure ginger uses a good jab, I guess. He does throw shorter punches too. That however are the only advantages he has. Chavez is the better fighter with the better resume. The jury is out & probably will be for some tie on just how good ginger is. Beating Josesito while getting hit a lot from a guy 2 divisions smaller doesn't tell me a thing.

Canelo @ 154 or 160 lbs Cotto @ 154 lbs GGG @ 160 lbs Mayweather @ 154 lbs Gimme predictions and reasoning. I think all these fights would be awesome. Assuming Martinez makes 154 without deteriorating: vs. Canelo = Martinez via TKO9 vs. Cotto = Martinez via TKO11 vs. Mayweather = Floyd via SD vs. Golovkin = Martinez via close UD Martinez's reach and southpaw stance will be an issue for all these guys. Their endurance/stamina/heart will get tested. Floyd is the most defensively responsible, so he stands the best chance of going 12. Golovkin has the best chance of stopping Martinez. Canelo/Cotto's lack of head movement will leave them vulnerable in the championship rounds when Sergio tends to get switch to a higher gear. All great match-ups.

I want Canelo or Golovkin I think that the only one who Martinez can beat is Cotto