It doesn't matter what Pac says he agrees to if his promoter continues to refuse to sit down with Mayweather's promoter to discuss a fight. That is what happened after the last Pac/Marquez fight -- Arum REFUSED to sit down with Richard Schafer to discuss a potential Mayweather/Pac fight. The idiotic Pac supporters love to harp on the phone call that Mayweather made to Pac and Mayweather's measley offer of a 40 million guarantee as the reason the fight wasn't made. The truth is and always has been that the fight was not made for May of 2012 or any time prior to that date because Bob Arum refused to make the fight. Arum lied about a second negotiation and created a phony countdown clock, he lied about talking to investors about the fight, he lied about his desire to build a temporary stadium to hold the fight and he lied about not knowing who to talk to in the Mayweather camp about negotiating the fight.
Pac has no authority to decide anything. He fights who Arum tells him to fight. He fought Marquez for a third time because that was the only decent option Arum gave him; he fought Timothy Bradley because that was the only option Arum gave him and he is fighting a fourth fight with Marquez because that is the only option Arum gave him if Pac wants to earn the type of money that he wants. If the fight is made for 2013 (I doubt it because I expect Marquez to KO Pacquaio) it will be made because Arum has run out of options, Pac plans to retire, his contract expires and Arum wants to cash Pac out. Nothing Pac says about the fight makes any difference. In the end, he will end up doing exactly what Arum wants.
On another note, Ellerbe is right. If the fight is made, it will be made on Mayweather's terms, not Pac's terms, and Mayweather's terms will definitely not be a 55-45 split of PPV revenue.
it's a waste of time to debate these types of things when Pac-JMM is around the corner. Wait for that fight to be over then debate this kind of stuff.
yep they just playing media games
he's willing to take the smaller purse...as to how small, why do F l o m o s care?
Is anyone here getting paid for being a supporter of either fighter?
Seems to me a bunch of sensitive Floyd fans here want to do save face because their guy is taking another media beating.
When it comes down to it, Floyd is not accepting 50-50. Of course its a bad job by Pac to specify what exactly his cut is, its foolish, maybe Floyd comes to his senses and accepts 50-50, i doubt it, but you never put yourself in a position of weakness in a negotiation.
why on earth would floyd take a 50/50 split with pac???? pac lost his last fight. and before anyone says "well everybody knows who really won" pac lost to JMM in the last fight. everybody knew who won that fight too. but on paper pac beat JMM and on paper pac lost to timmy b. pac has looked pretty bad in his last few fights while floyd has taken on the best fighters available. while pac brings hype to the table this fight should be 60/40 in favour of floyd. if the shoe were on the other foot pac fans would be screaming out how un fair it would be for floyd to get purse parity if he looked like pac did in his last few fights. and floyd always takes a media beating whats new about that? he uses it to his advantage and gets very large pay days because of it. lemons to lemon aid.
You guys are skipping this important part:
Yet Pacquiao told publicist Fred Sternburg on Friday that he would take the flat 45% purse regardless of the outcome. Pacquiao has previously said he’d also submit to drug testing up to “the day of the fight.”
“I don’t know what more he can do,”
Yeah I read that part but ignored it because Manny said it not Konz or Bob Arum
Right......but Pac---tards are on here thinking its a new deal lol.
It's the same BS
You guys are skipping this important part:
Yet Pacquiao told publicist Fred Sternburg on Friday that he would take the flat 45% purse regardless of the outcome. Pacquiao has previously said he’d also submit to drug testing up to “the day of the fight.”
“I don’t know what more he can do,”
i rather believe pac's statement over ****ing koncz tbh...pacquiao said specifically: "Win or lose, I’ll take 45%" ... "He can wear my trunks. I don’t care. I just want to get him in the ring and make the fight."
if pac came out and said differently i would understand...kind of like when floyd said "pac you're next!" but later back tracked and said how he never called out pac.
Yeah like when Pac said he would take a smaller split before only to have konz and Arum to kill it.
Pac doesn't run the show so whatever he says isn't final.
it's a waste of time to debate these types of things when Pac-JMM is around the corner. Wait for that fight to be over then debate this kind of stuff.
I think it is fine to debate it, it is just a topic after all, but you are pretty much right because anything said now by either side doesn't mean very much.
What matters is what is said when it comes time to sit down and negotiate the fight.
it's a waste of time to debate these types of things when Pac-JMM is around the corner. Wait for that fight to be over then debate this kind of stuff.
Completely off topic, but yeah. I live in a state where we get 300 days of sun, I heard up in Seattle and Portland, the Northwest, you guys get 300 days of clouds and/or rain. Any truth to that???
he's willing to take the smaller purse...as to how small, why do F l o m o s care?
Is anyone here getting paid for being a supporter of either fighter?
Seems to me a bunch of sensitive Floyd fans here want to do save face because their guy is taking another media beating.
When it comes down to it, Floyd is not accepting 50-50. Of course its a bad job by Pac to specify what exactly his cut is, its foolish, maybe Floyd comes to his senses and accepts 50-50, i doubt it, but you never put yourself in a position of weakness in a negotiation.
i rather believe pac's statement over ****ing koncz tbh...pacquiao said specifically: "Win or lose, I’ll take 45%" ... "He can wear my trunks. I don’t care. I just want to get him in the ring and make the fight."
if pac came out and said differently i would understand...kind of like when floyd said "pac you're next!" but later back tracked and said how he never called out pac.
To be honest I don't think Pacquiao minds taking the smaller piece of the pie, really speaking he's a bit thick/simple. What people need to realise is that his handlers aren't that stupid, every time he opens his mouth claiming that he'd take a smaller paycut Koncz and Arum more than likely face palm whilst preparing a damage control speech.
I agree.....and thats why the fight won't happen. (because of his handlers)
To be honest I don't think Pacquiao minds taking the smaller piece of the pie, really speaking he's a bit thick/simple. What people need to realise is that his handlers aren't that stupid, every time he opens his mouth claiming that he'd take a smaller paycut Koncz and Arum more than likely face palm whilst preparing a damage control speech.
Well hopefully Koncz' statements go viral and people can make articles about it, so we don't have people thinking Manny is willing to only take 45 no matter what. That's what I thought initially too.
Wait......so Koncz clarified to the LA Times that Manny was talking about the winner getting 55 and the loser 45....
I'm so confused now.
Right......but Pac---tards are on here thinking its a new deal lol.
It's the same BS
That would be a shame, but fits the whole narrative of each side playing off the other trying to build them self up while promoting a different fight.
That said, what getting talked about now is not that important because there is no chance of the fight coming off next. They need to be able to agree and be real when it is time to sit down and negotiate, rather than playing the media trying to get the public on their side.