Will Floyd end up like Roy Jones?

Floyd is done.... his body has gone to ****s. He'll have 2 more fights and retire.

After seeing the Cotto fight, Floyd has 1-2 more fights left in him. The guy just isn't the same anymore.

Floyd has a decent chin, but he can't take a good punch too well. He does know how to survive though. It's in his genes, his pops and uncle weren't capable of taken good punches. Roger "Shaky legs" Mayweather. Roger was much more of a gunslinger than Floyd, which only made his weakness that much more pronounced. Floyd Sr. I think had a pretty good chin, he took a pretty bad pounding from Ray Leonard and made it almost to the end.

I can see him fighting in his let 40's, but He'd lose eventually. As sad as it is to admit, he could end up broke too.

Floyd has a decent chin, but he can't take a good punch too well. He does know how to survive though. It's in his genes, his pops and uncle weren't capable of taken good punches. Roger "Shaky legs" Mayweather.

I do probably agree that if Floyd fights for two more years he will certainly get beat especially if he hangs out at 154 where he has huge disadvantages. Still I don't think Floyd ends up like Jones because what Jones did was very hard to deal with but he always fought the same way, he basically laid his hand on the table and said beat me no one could do that until he faded. Floyd approaches things a bit differently and changes how he fights on a fight by fight basis, while while he might not have the longevity of a B-Hop he should fare better than Jones as he ages. Also I don't think Floyd took that much damage in the Cotto fight~ there are B-Hop fights where he took just as much or more damage maybe in a different pattern by different sorts of guys but he didn't have some perfect defensive style but he did adapt well as he aged changing up his game, it remains to be seen if Floyd will do that.

WTF does pride have to do with being ktfo. :lol1: Lets be honest, if Shane would of got out of the way instead of hugging Floyd after he landed those two right hands, Floyd would of been DROPPED. Their defenses are different. When a fighter comes in on Bernard he either circles away or grabs him. When a fighter comes in on Floyd he goes into his shell, basically gambling that his reflexes and rolling is better than the opponents combination accuracy. Floyd can be hit in his shell, hell we saw what Cotto can do when Floyd is rolling.. he wasn't teeing off but he WAS hitting Floyd. And we saw Floyds anticipation/reflexes slown down a bit when Mosley landed two straight bombs on Floyd. Then we saw it again when Floyd and Cotto we're standing in the middle of the ring and Cotto landed 3-4 jabs... IN A ROW, right on Floyd.. Floyd didn't move, slip, counter, roll... no he took them to the face and got a bloody nose. He's 36 years old in 3 months, **** will change. ^^ This...........

maybe back in the day. But Hopkins would have never taken the kind of damage against a guy like Cotto that Floyd did, not at any point in his career. I agree. Hopkins would have got off the ropes as soon as Cotto landed the first jab. I've never seen Hopkins cornered on the ropes like a sitting duck and let an opponent fired off and landed the same combo punches on him like Cotto did on Floyd in round 8. Even at the age of 47, Hopkins has been lighter on his feet and move around better than Floyd has in his last three fights.

Why does everyone say Floyd had this great chin? The only example they use is look at how shane hit him and came back. Shane got in two good shots and Floyd was on queer street his chin his decent above average his recoop and instincts to survive Is what's so good.

If Mayweather keeps fighting he will lose. irondanhamza, i'm in line with ya on this one...i do feel, that floyd mayweather jr., despite his good defense, will be getting hit a lot more as he continues to fight past his prime...just the law of gravity, when you have a fighter who was as dominant as he was...should be interesting, because we get to see what floyd mayweather jr., is made of, when an opponent isn't afraid, or is just able, to exchange with him...i saw a little bit of it in the cotto fight...

God I hope not. As big as a RJJ fan as I am I still wish he would just hang up the gloves and move on to commentating full time. I think Floyd will probably hang it up soon before he is age catches up to him.

That is such bull crap/ The weight loss only effected him in the first tarver fight which he won. After that he had plenty of time to heel from the weight loss and he had Mackie shilstone. What effected him was getting knocked out twice in a row. Roy didn't use Mackie for the first fight with Tarver. He used him to bulk up for Ruiz and for Tarver 2. Here's the interview with Mackie and he even says the weight lost did hurt Roy. I think I will take Mackie's word on the subject rather then some boxing fans theory. ********** : EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MACKIE SHILSTONE June 12, 2008 EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: MACKIE SHILSTONE By Krishen Rangi How much of an issue is a fighter moving up taking the naturally bigger guy's shots. What have Spinks, Jones, Hopkins, guys like that said about their ability to absorb punches at higher weights? I don't know of any fighter in the business of taking punches. Depends on the fighter if he has the power to take the punches. It's as much mental as it is physical. In the Jones/Ruiz fight we wanted to break his nose, that was the plan. We knew Ruiz had broken his nose in the Holyfield fight, and Roy broke his nose in the 6th round. He couldn't breathe out of it after that. What happened to Roy Jones when he went back down to light-heavyweight to fight Tarver after you had helped him move up and beat Ruiz for the heavyweight title? You have to remember Roy is such a talented athlete. The muscle that was put on is very difficult to take off. It was a very tough fight. Draining to anyone but he ended up winning. The same thing happened to Tarver when he did the Rocky movie. He was in the 220s then he came down and he was compromised against Bernard. I would have liked to see Roy stay at heavyweight, and I told him that. I think Roy would have beaten Tyson. I think Roy would have beaten Holyfield, but the fights weren't there. Muscle is not easy to take off, it affects your immune system. How much did Roy weigh for the Ruiz fight? 200 lbs. There was a story circulating he had weights in his pocket and he really weighed 193. Before we went down for the weigh-in we were all kidding what Roy would weigh. Roy had been in the range of 199-200. What happened was Roy got on the scale and a fight broke out between Alton Merkerson and Ruiz's camp. Mark Ratner who was doing the weigh-in never let the scale adjust because the fight had broke out. I know Mark, and told him that's not his weight you should correct it. When Roy went to the hotel room and got on the scale he was laughing and saying "I can't believe it". He takes his shirt off and steps on the scale, and this is on the documentary ESPN did called "The Sweet Science". Mark Ratner was there too. I told him to call HBO so they wouldn't think it was rebound weight and they mentioned that on the broadcast.

If Mayweather keeps fighting he will lose.

Yet another Roy thread. Again I ask, what is it with these Roy threads lately?

Roy was unorthodox. Yes he was. But, to say he was only reflexes and athleticism is pretty stupid. He used his style paired with IQ to set traps. Have you ever heard him break a fight down/ His problem was he refused to adapt. That is why he hasnt had much success once he slowed down. He knows everything there is to know about the sport. The weight drop after the Ruiz fight at the age of 34, was killer to his career. I also dont buy he tarnished his legacy. Many all time greats went beyond their prime and looked like hell. No one mentions Ali losing to Trevor Berbick or Sugar Ray Leonard getting ko's by Camacho. But, Roy was not just an athlete that put on boxing gloves. He's been fighting since he was child. He knows the sport, knows everything about it. He just refused to adapt his style according to where he was at physically, not because of a lack of knowledge. real talk, co-sign!

Roy Jones depended on his athleticism and reflexes. He was never the most techinically sound fighter in the game. His style just didn't age well. It didn't help that, at age 35 he went from heavyweight to light heavyweight. Losing all that muscle affected his power and reflexes and he was never the same after the Ruiz fight. Floyd is a defensive wizard whose style as aged extremely well. He doesn't rely as much on his legs and natural athleticism as he did in the lower weight classes. Plus he hasn't taken much punishment throughout is career, and fights only once or at most twice a year. He's a young 35 and I think he be a much more effective fighter than Roy into his late 30s/early 40s if he wanted to. But from his recent interviews it sounds like he wants to focus more on his promotional venture rather than his boxing career. That is such bull crap/ The weight loss only effected him in the first tarver fight which he won. After that he had plenty of time to heel from the weight loss and he had Mackie shilstone. What effected him was getting knocked out twice in a row.

You mean a legend and future Hall of Famer? I see no doubt in my mind.

He probably will, it seems like all the greats fight way too long. There have only been so many that have walked away champs and never came back. He needs to be smart with his money, so he won't have to comeback, once he is done for good.

Roy was unorthodox. Yes he was. But, to say he was only reflexes and athleticism is pretty stupid. He used his style paired with IQ to set traps. Have you ever heard him break a fight down/ His problem was he refused to adapt. That is why he hasnt had much success once he slowed down. He knows everything there is to know about the sport. The weight drop after the Ruiz fight at the age of 34, was killer to his career. I also dont buy he tarnished his legacy. Many all time greats went beyond their prime and looked like hell. No one mentions Ali losing to Trevor Berbick or Sugar Ray Leonard getting ko's by Camacho. But, Roy was not just an athlete that put on boxing gloves. He's been fighting since he was child. He knows the sport, knows everything about it. He just refused to adapt his style according to where he was at physically, not because of a lack of knowledge.

I don't think floyd purposely got jabbed in the face repeatedly and was bleeding all over for the fans. :lol1::lol1::lol1: